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Thoughts?
Just curious if you think Boehner and the Tea Party will take America hostage again in 90 days in shutting down the government and threatening a US default because they do not get their way in the legislative democratic process (which they won't because they do not compromise and do not have the Senate or Presidency, or even a solid majority in the House).
Or have the Tea Party learned their lesson in the fiasco that just ended?
Originally posted by moon1969Nothing really was resolved and nothing really changed so no one will probably look at things differently and everyone will simply still think they are right.
Thoughts?
Just curious if you think Boehner and the Tea Party will take America hostage again in 90 days in shutting down the government and threatening a US default because they do not get their way in the legislative democratic process (which they won't because they do not compromise and do not have the Senate or Presidency, or even a solid majority in the House).
Or have the Tea Party learned their lesson in the fiasco that just ended?
Originally posted by moon1969The only major change I am willing to predict at this time is that Boehner's (and Cantor's) powers and the Hastert rule won't be used to prevent a Senate-passed bill from being voted on by the House, if the bill is not much more "liberal" than the one just passed. Kicking the can down the road. So basically, the leadership won't use procedural rules to help Cruz and his ilk.
Thoughts?
Just curious if you think Boehner and the Tea Party will take America hostage again in 90 days in shutting down the government and threatening a US default because they do not get their way in the legislative democratic process (which they won't because they do not compromise and do not have the Senate or Presidency, or even a solid majority in the House).
Or have the Tea Party learned their lesson in the fiasco that just ended?
Originally posted by JS357It remains to be seen what the political fallout will be. I suspect that Boehner and Cantor and many of the Republican old timers may be likely to being primaried and replaced by more TEA party candidates. That applies also to Blue State, main stream Republicans like McConnell Indiana Senator.
The only major change I am willing to predict at this time is that Boehner's (and Cantor's) powers and the Hastert rule won't be used to prevent a Senate-passed bill from being voted on by the House, if the bill is not much more "liberal" than the one just passed. Kicking the can down the road. So basically, the leadership won't use procedural rules to help Cruz and his ilk.
The TEA party knew starting out that it would not have the power to move its agenda, until it gained majority in at least one house of Congress preferably both.
Originally posted by normbenignI am anxious to see the Senate immigration reform bill forced through the House. Also, the universal background checks for gun purchases. And most importantly, a grand plan budget with a balanced approach having revenue increases.
It remains to be seen what the political fallout will be. I suspect that Boehner and Cantor and many of the Republican old timers may be likely to being primaried and replaced by more TEA party candidates. That applies also to Blue State, main stream Republicans like McConnell Indiana Senator.
The TEA party knew starting out that it would not have th ...[text shortened]... to move its agenda, until it gained majority in at least one house of Congress preferably both.
Originally posted by moon1969Mitch McConnell already has a TEA party challenger. So long as immigration reform is fundamentally about amnesty, it will continue to fail, on bipartisan basis.
I am anxious to see the Senate immigration reform bill forced through the House. Also, the universal background checks for gun purchases. And most importantly, a grand plan budget with a balanced approach having revenue increases.
Universal background checks are a fraud. Pure foolishness. And a grand budget plan would be great, but more revenue would just result in more spending. Like giving your alcoholic uncle a gift card to the local pub.
Originally posted by normbenignMitch McConnell is much more concerned about the general election that he is the Tea Party primary challenger. Why do you think he led the GOP in the recent compromise. I promise you it wasn't just about the pork.
Mitch McConnell already has a TEA party challenger. So long as immigration reform is fundamentally about amnesty, it will continue to fail, on bipartisan basis.
Originally posted by normbenignAs sh76 said, spending cuts alone to balance the budget would hurt the economy too much. Definitely need a balanced approach with revenues increases. Time to force it down the throats of Grover Norquist and the Tea Party radicals.
And a grand budget plan would be great, but more revenue would just result in more spending. Like giving your alcoholic uncle a gift card to the local pub.