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Will you be able to afford to retire?

Will you be able to afford to retire?

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
What happens when there are too many retirees and not enough worker bees? This is already happening in Europe -- the demographics are changing because too many people are dropping out of work in their 50s and fewer babies are being born. And before you say all that can be fixed by immigration, do you really want a large minority population with low education, few skills and hostile to the host countries' values?
This a valid concern, that's why I support raising the legal age at which a state pension is awarded, and encourage people to work longer in general.

In any case minorities amount to 20% of the population here so I'm not too worried about that.

On a side note, I don't think not being able to afford the pensions is a problem, rather not wanting to afford it.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Yeah, but even without a well paying job there is always the state pension which is enough to keep me alive.
You just want to be kept alive by state pension?
Where the hell were you when they were sharing ambition.
Learning how to $%@$% beg ?

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Originally posted by Rajk999
You just want to be kept alive by state pension?
Where the hell were you when they were sharing ambition.
Learning how to $%@$% beg ?
Learn to read, I study subjects you will never understand.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Learn to read, I study subjects you will never understand.
Don't prop yourself up too high. Thousands upon thousands of kids graduate every year with a physics degree.

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Originally posted by jlilly
Don't prop yourself up too high. Thousands upon thousands of kids graduate every year with a physics degree.
Yeah, smart kids.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Yeah, smart kids.
Smart people dont even consider living off state pension.
So by definition you are missing a couple screws.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Yeah, smart kids.
And there are thousands who graduate from top-notch medical schools every year. Doing concepts and surgery you could never understand. Like I said, don't prop that butt up too high.

And physics is a little hard to "break into", so to speak. You will most likely be another unknown physicist in the shadows of better physicists.

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Originally posted by Rajk999
Smart people dont even consider living off state pension.
So by definition you are missing a couple screws.
I never said I considered it, I just said it was possibility, if needed. On a side note, you can't really "choose" to receive a state pension since everyone gets one, regardless of income, as long as you're not working (though there is a financial stimulus to work beyond age 65).

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only civil servants can afford to retire, but whats the point of retiring anyway, - apart from getting ready to die?

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Here is some debate ammo for you.

The benifit of good morals. If you careful selected a worthy mate, not just someone that you happen to like sleeping with, but if you save yourself for someone that is fun and can provide for you into the future, then you would not be in this pickle. And when this is done as a society, everyone will have to step it up a bit to better themselves, education and/or skills to make themselves more attractive to a quality mate. Instead, we have here a case of "free love", where the selfish pleasure of sex is the only thing that matters, not if you contribute or better society. When will we get to the point where we are shagging like dogs on the street? You chose this "lifestyle", so stop whining about it.

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Originally posted by Dace Ace
Here is some debate ammo for you.

The benifit of good morals. If you careful selected a worthy mate, not just someone that you happen to like sleeping with, but if you save yourself for someone that is fun and can provide for you into the future, then you would not be in this pickle. And when this is done as a society, everyone will have to step it up ...[text shortened]... re shagging like dogs on the street? You chose this "lifestyle", so stop whining about it.
I read your post twice but fail to see your point completely, please elaborate.

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Originally posted by Dace Ace
Here is some debate ammo for you.

The benifit of good morals. If you careful selected a worthy mate, not just someone that you happen to like sleeping with, but if you save yourself for someone that is fun and can provide for you into the future, then you would not be in this pickle. And when this is done as a society, everyone will have to step it up re shagging like dogs on the street? You chose this "lifestyle", so stop whining about it.
How can you know which partner's right for you if you don't *shop around* a little?
I like *shopping round* 😀