@wajoma saidHe's more coherent in his policy positions than any Republican currently in Congress, and can form sentences with greater proficiency than the average word salad that dribbles out of Trump's mouth. So? The alternative is Oz, who wants a total ban on abortion for starters.
He's not well, do what any normal person would do, like a trashman, or toilet cleaner in his condition would do i.e. take some time off and try to get your health in shape, come back when you're coherent.
@earl-of-trumps saidATTEMPTED hacking was done in 2016. But was the 2016 election actually hacked, so as to alter the outcome? I do not think so. And polls of Democrats these days, or anytime recently, do not back this fantasy false equivalence of yours.
@Soothfast said - "...But the average Republican now believes Trump really did win in 2020,"
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And the average Democrat believes that the 2016 election was hacked, and,
they also now believe that Republicans will end democracy in America after the midterms.
😴 😴 😴 😴 😴
And hey, let's say that every Democrat does believe the 2016 election was hacked. Have you noticed them storming the Capitol Building, or a governor's mansion, or any of that? Have they screamed for revenge, and vowed not to accept the results of the next election unless the vote tally says they won?
F A L S E
E Q U I V A L E N C E
And also just plain false.
You've repeated this crap like a scratched record countless times now, like a kid with a new fidget spinner. Please upgrade your software.
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@soothfast saidYou sound like you're trying to convince yourself.
He's more coherent in his policy positions than any Republican currently in Congress, and can form sentences with greater proficiency than the average word salad that dribbles out of Trump's mouth. So? The alternative is Oz, who wants a total ban on abortion for starters.
BTW for the 1500th time I'm a libertarian, just because I point out fetterman and biden are approaching retard level doesn't mean I'm voting Republican.
You people need to take a step back and look at yourselves: fetterman coherent? those that keep pushing him up on stage are abusers, you've become fanatical, blinded.
@wajoma saidSo you are saying anyone with a speech impediment should never dare to seek elected office? The issue here is motor control of the speech organs, not so much any mental impairment.
You sound like you're trying to convince yourself.
BTW for the 1500th time I'm a libertarian, just because I point out fetterman and biden are approaching retard level doesn't mean I'm voting Republican.
You people need to take a step back and look at yourselves: fetterman coherent? those that keep pushing him up on stage are abusers, you've become fanatical, blinded.
Sounds like you're trying to finding excuses to boost a Republican again, which you nearly always do, you "libertarian" you. Yeah, sure...
You're a cafeteria libertarian. You're for the freedoms that you want, and to hell with anyone who wants different freedoms. You're as phony as a three-dollar bill, as we say in the US.
@soothfast saidYou accuse others of what you yourself are guilty.
You've repeated this crap like a scratched record countless times now, like a kid with a new fidget spinner. Please upgrade your software.
"Storming the capital" What do you suppose the plan was, overthrow the worlds most powerful goobermint, order in pizza, then the next day start making new laws. It was a meandering.
@soothfast saidI'm done talking about fetterman, you're embarassing yourself
You're a cafeteria libertarian. You're for the freedoms that you want, and to hell with anyone who wants different freedoms. You're as phony as a three-dollar bill, as we say in the US.
Some examples of these 'different freedoms' please.
@wajoma saidYou want the "freedom" to not have to pay into a socialized medical system, and expect this "freedom" to be extended to everyone else who may have a different idea of what freedom is. Others find freedom in having some security from being totally ruined by a health issue.
I'm done talking about fetterman, you're embarassing yourself
Some examples of these 'different freedoms' please.
You can add any number of items to this list that are of a similar nature. The vast majority of any sane population wants public schools, public transportation, and so on. Your contention is usually the same: though an Island Of One, you reckon your desire not to be a part of society as greater than the needs of a society to be a society.
So you are anti-democratic, to be sure, and generally slum around this forum poodling up to authoritarian Republicans (in office or hereabouts) to a degree only matched by your bitching about Democrats. Hardly a libertarian are you. You're not worthy to be Ayn Rand's tampon.
@wajoma saidOf course you're done. You've shot your wad, and it was a blank. You go so far as to dock a Democrat for a speech impediment to boost a scumbag like Oz who is as authoritarian as they come.
I'm done talking about fetterman, you're embarassing yourself
Some examples of these 'different freedoms' please.
No sir, you are not a libertarian. You're as "live and let live" as a concentration camp commandant.
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@shavixmir saidWe shall see. I listed the horribleness of these 2 years why do you avoid that Shav? Why did another guy (Wildgrass in Hard to Title thread about listing the hell of these 22 months) say it was lies and I asked him to point out the lies. He doesn’t. Will you.
It wasn’t good news in 2016.
And things have gotten a lot worse.
300+ republican candidates don’t trust the election system unless they, themselves, win.
The hypocrisy when filling the supreme court.
Lies, insurrections… the faeces just goes on.
And you think you’re safe from the fall out, because you have an average wage.
You are entering a world of pain.
You’ve been told. Warned.
And still you vote for people who believe in Qanon garbish.
Shame on you.
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@wajoma saidAn attempted coup is no big deal because the coup failed? This is your position? Can I come over and smash your windows, and be excused by claiming I was aiming for the door?
You accuse others of what you yourself are guilty.
"Storming the capital" What do you suppose the plan was, overthrow the worlds most powerful goobermint, order in pizza, then the next day start making new laws. It was a meandering.
@soothfast saidI make no claims to being an Objectivist, there are clashes between Objectivism and Libertarianism, but you'd rather throw names around as a bluff.
You want the "freedom" to not have to pay into a socialized medical system, and expect this "freedom" to be extended to everyone else who may have a different idea of what freedom is. Others find freedom in having some security from being totally ruined by a health issue.
You can add any number of items to this list that are of a similar nature. The vast majority of an ...[text shortened]... bitching about Democrats. Hardly a libertarian are you. You're not worthy to be Ayn Rand's tampon.
The issue with these 'different freedoms' like socialized healthcare is that you want the freedom to put shackles on your fellow man, that's why you have to tack the word 'different' onto the word 'freedom' because you know 'different freedom' is as removed from actual freedom as to qualify for 1984 double speak.
In this internet age all those that believe in a collectivist model healthcare system should get together and create one, run one, gather like minded people, if it's such a great idea people are going to be banging down the door trying to join. There's never been a better time, I wish you luck.
I'd like the freedom to drive a Maserati and I'd like the freedom not to be ruined by the cost of ownership and maintenance, and tires.
@soothfast saidHa. Word Salad was first attributed to the Kamala Kackler. See the you tubes.
He's more coherent in his policy positions than any Republican currently in Congress, and can form sentences with greater proficiency than the average word salad that dribbles out of Trump's mouth. So? The alternative is Oz, who wants a total ban on abortion for starters.
Say OZband abortions. Many are for that. But how many want Heroin parks, free needles, ease of crime, socialismetc.
That is Fetterman. Do you know he never has had a job? Your post loses. Who to babysit your kids? Him, or OZ? Right. You finally get it.
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@soothfast saidGive us your 10 day program for this supposed coup, let's say Jan 7th to Jan 17th.
An attempted coup is no big deal because the coup failed? This is your position? Can I come over and smash your windows, and be excused by claiming I was aiming for the door?
I'll tell you how it would've gone if the meanderers had been successful beyond their wildest dreams. The US goobermint would have carried on business as usual.
@wajoma saidLol you're a libertarian. Thanks I needed a laugh.
You sound like you're trying to convince yourself.
BTW for the 1500th time I'm a libertarian, just because I point out fetterman and biden are approaching retard level doesn't mean I'm voting Republican.
You people need to take a step back and look at yourselves: fetterman coherent? those that keep pushing him up on stage are abusers, you've become fanatical, blinded.
I grew up around libertarians. Real libertarians. They don't vote GOP.
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@wildgrass saidAnd if you can find anywhere that I have said vote republican I'll give you a $1000,
Lol you're a libertarian. Thanks I needed a laugh.
I grew up around libertarians. Real libertarians. They don't vote GOP.
A oneway bet, a safe bet, no risk to you (and I know, no risk to me)
Edit: I'm all for the end of the two party seesaw, every election the people on the edge are told you must vote X to keep Y out. You may not really support X but just put that aside, it's vitally important this election to keep Y out. Put your principles in a box over there, we have to make sure Y does not get in.
I've seen shag doody for brains foaming it.