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  1. Zugzwang
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    13 Jul '16 02:371 edit
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/12/womens-groups-and-mps-denounce-appointment-of-idfs-chief-rabbi

    "Women's Groups Denounce Israeli Military Over Appointment of Chief Rabbi"
    --Peter Beaumont (12 July 2016)

    The Israel Defence Force has nominated a new chief rabbi, Colonel Eyal Karim,
    who in 2002 stated (or at least implied) that it was morally acceptable for
    (presumably Jewish) Israeli soldiers to rape non-Jewish women in wartime.

    According to a translation (given by Reuters) of his Hebrew into English:
    It was acceptable for a Jewish warrior to "satisfy the evil incilination (his
    lust) by lying with attractive Gentile women against their will."

    As far as I can infer, Rabbi Colonel Karim believed that victory must be
    the highest value for Israel in wartime. And so he apparently condoned
    Israeli soldiers raping non-Jewish women on the grounds that it would
    bolster these men's morale and help them fight with greater zeal.
    This does not seem different from the traditional belief that soldiers who fought
    hard should be allowed to rape and pillage as their deserved 'spoils of war'.
    Commanders liked to encourage their men to storm a city by reminding them
    of the pretty women whom they could enjoy raping after the city had fallen.

    'Yedioth Ahronoth' (a major Israeli newspaper) ran this headline:
    "New Chief Military Rabbi: Rape is Permissible in War".
    An IDF spokesman denied that Rabbi Karim ever has condoned rape in wartime.
    And Rabbi Karim has claimed that his words were taken out of context.

    But in 2002 Rabbi Karim also said that women should not be allowed to serve in the IDF.
    And in 2013, a part of the military rabbinate that he had headed published
    a statement claiming that the Torah held that Jews and non-Jews should
    *not* have equal rights under the law in Israel.
  2. Joined
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    13 Jul '16 03:02
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/12/womens-groups-and-mps-denounce-appointment-of-idfs-chief-rabbi

    "Women's Groups Denounce Israeli Military Over Appointment of Chief Rabbi"
    --Peter Beaumont (12 July 2016)

    The Israel Defence Force has nominated a new chief rabbi, Colonel Eyal Karim,
    who in 2002 stated (or at least implied) that it was mor ...[text shortened]... t the Torah held that Jews and non-Jews should
    *not* have equal rights under the law in Israel.
    I guess when Chief Rabbi has a daughter, mother , sister or wife get raped during war or at any other time, he will reap what he sowed. What he said won't have any effect on the behavior of the soldiers. They will do it anyway. Same with any other nations military. The armies of the world really do not place much value in human life. Of course there is patriotism, brotherhood, yada yada to make it possible for a soldier to live with himself. Hiroshima and Nagasaki pale in comparison to the firebombings of the German cities. It always is explained away by we had to do it to win. Looks like the same is true with Chief Rabbi and rape. Somehow he has used the war philosophy of taking the war to the people and justified rape.
  3. Standard membervivify
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    13 Jul '16 03:25
    This probably stems from Old Testament passages that allow soldiers to take wives from nations they've helped conquer. Even God threatened the Jews with the rape of their women by nations that defeat them in war, if they don't obey (Deuteronomy 28:15-68; verse 30 specifically mentions rape).
  4. Behind the scenes
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    13 Jul '16 09:59
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/12/womens-groups-and-mps-denounce-appointment-of-idfs-chief-rabbi

    "Women's Groups Denounce Israeli Military Over Appointment of Chief Rabbi"
    --Peter Beaumont (12 July 2016)

    The Israel Defence Force has nominated a new chief rabbi, Colonel Eyal Karim,
    who in 2002 stated (or at least implied) that it was mor ...[text shortened]... t the Torah held that Jews and non-Jews should
    *not* have equal rights under the law in Israel.
    Why do we need to know this?
  5. Zugzwang
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    13 Jul '16 21:08
    Originally posted by mchill
    Why do we need to know this?
    If a thread's subject does not interest Mchill, he does not have to read it, let alone write in it.
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