28 Jan 16
After the town hall meeting in Iowa, Sanders was asked if he will raise taxes to which he answered "Yes, but...".
Do you think what follows matters? or do you, like some media networks (that are impartial and in no way pro clinton) think the "Yes" is enough.
http://mic.com/articles/133481/bernie-sanders-we-will-raise-taxes-yes-we-will#.JbkKH19XL
"If you are paying $10,000 to a private health insurance company and I say to you, hypothetically, you're going to pay $5,000 more in taxes, but you're not going to be paying any more private health insurance, are you going to be complaining about the fact that I've saved you $5,000 in your total bills?" Sanders asked host Chris Cuomo.
the fact that under bernie's plan the public is going to ultimately save money wasn't mentioned in the headlines. it was buried somewhere in the middle of the article.
28 Jan 16
Originally posted by ZahlanziWhat if someone wants to pocket the $15,000 a year and pay for it themselves?
After the town hall meeting in Iowa, Sanders was asked if he will raise taxes to which he answered "Yes, but...".
Do you think what follows matters? or do you, like some media networks (that are impartial and in no way pro clinton) think the "Yes" is enough.
http://mic.com/articles/133481/bernie-sanders-we-will-raise-taxes-yes-we-will#.JbkKH19XL
" ...[text shortened]... e money wasn't mentioned in the headlines. it was buried somewhere in the middle of the article.
28 Jan 16
Originally posted by ZahlanziEvery politician promises to save the people money. Does it ever happen in reality? ACA may save the few newly insureds, maybe. But nearly everyone else is paying more for healthcare, insured or otherwise.
After the town hall meeting in Iowa, Sanders was asked if he will raise taxes to which he answered "Yes, but...".
Do you think what follows matters? or do you, like some media networks (that are impartial and in no way pro clinton) think the "Yes" is enough.
http://mic.com/articles/133481/bernie-sanders-we-will-raise-taxes-yes-we-will#.JbkKH19XL
" ...[text shortened]... e money wasn't mentioned in the headlines. it was buried somewhere in the middle of the article.
28 Jan 16
Originally posted by normbenignAt least Bernie is admitting that people will be paying more.
Every politician promises to save the people money. Does it ever happen in reality? ACA may save the few newly insureds, maybe. But nearly everyone else is paying more for healthcare, insured or otherwise.
I guess Obamacare is such a failure already Bernie wants to change it all.
29 Jan 16
Originally posted by whodeywhat if someone wants to pocket another X $ a year and pay for the roads he is driving on himself?
What if someone wants to pocket the $15,000 a year and pay for it themselves?
what if someone decides he doesn't need the protection of the military, so he can just skip paying taxes for a military budget.
what if someone decides he doesn't need police, he can just hire private security. can he skip paying taxes and should the police ignore him if he gets stabbed in front of them? should the police start asking victims if they had paid their taxes before stopping their attacker(s)?
but to answer your question, that someone can't, because taxes aren't optional.
29 Jan 16
Originally posted by whodey"At least Bernie is admitting that people will be paying more."
At least Bernie is admitting that people will be paying more.
I guess Obamacare is such a failure already Bernie wants to change it all.
that's not what he said. if you would have watched the town hall meeting you would have heard the whole context.
under a single payer system, you will pay more taxes, but without paying premiums for insurance companies out to make a profit, you will save X$ dollars that you can spend on the glenn beck bobbleheads you've been always dreaming of buying
"I guess Obamacare is such a failure already Bernie wants to change it all."
it was the best your bankrupt political system could come up with. it helped and still helps a lot of people that need health coverage while inconveniencing some people who will have to maybe only fill up 2 gas guzzler suv's instead of 3.
29 Jan 16
what i wanted to say with this thread is that the media is immensely biased towards hillary and they insuficiently report what bernie sanders says or takes it out of context.
this is immensely damaging if you don't bother to actually listen to each candidate's entire speech.
29 Jan 16
Originally posted by normbenign"Every politician promises to save the people money. "
Every politician promises to save the people money. Does it ever happen in reality? ACA may save the few newly insureds, maybe. But nearly everyone else is paying more for healthcare, insured or otherwise.
this politician promises to do something obama didn't (since you brought up ACA again).
every developed country that offers healthcare to its citizens (it's actually the citizens who offer themselves healthcare through their elected officials but let's not get technical) does something that the US never dared to. They NEGOTIATE. They tell the pharmaceutical companies that X money for drug Y is too much. They demand a lower price. In exchange, the company that wins a contract gets exclusive rights to supply said drug or said medical item.
No drug company bankrupted because of this practice. They still make huge profits. American drug companies sell in Europe. They sell in Canada. They obey the country's regulations. Do you honestly think they would operate at a loss in Europe?
29 Jan 16
Originally posted by ZahlanziYou are the last person to be preaching this, it is sound advice but coming from you it's all dirtied up, hollow, hypocritical.
what i wanted to say with this thread is that the media is immensely biased towards hillary and they insuficiently report what bernie sanders says or takes it out of context.
this is immensely damaging if you don't bother to actually listen to each candidate's entire speech.
Originally posted by ZahlanziAnd if I like my Glenn Beck bobbleheads, I will be able to keep those bobbleheads.
"At least Bernie is admitting that people will be paying more."
that's not what he said. if you would have watched the town hall meeting you would have heard the whole context.
under a single payer system, you will pay more taxes, but without paying premiums for insurance companies out to make a profit, you will save X$ dollars that you can spend on th ...[text shortened]... nconveniencing some people who will have to maybe only fill up 2 gas guzzler suv's instead of 3.
Got it! 😵
Lie to voters once, sham on you. Lie to them twice, sham on the tard voters.
29 Jan 16
Originally posted by whodeylie? lie what? aaa, you are back to obama bashing.
And if I like my Glenn Beck bobbleheads, I will be able to keep those bobbleheads.
Got it! 😵
Lie to voters once, sham on you. Lie to them twice, sham on the tard voters.
we are talking about bernie, please keep up