The U.S. death toll in Iraq has reached 528 so far. For the last six months they break down as follows:
August: 35
September: 30
October: 43
November: 82
December: 40
January: 45
That's a total of 275 deaths for the last six months. This equals 45.8 per month, or 1.5 per day. If anything, the death toll has been accelerating since Saddam's capture.
Originally posted by rwingettDo you have the numbers for US murders and road deaths over the same period? it would be very interesting to compare. i suspect there are more Americans killed by Americans than by Iraqis...
The U.S. death toll in Iraq has reached 528 so far. For the last six months they break down as follows:
August: 35
September: 30
October: 43
November: 82
December: 40
January: 45
That's a total of 275 deaths for the last six months. This equals 45.8 per month, or 1.5 per day. If anything, the death toll has been accelerating since Saddam's capture.
Originally posted by rwingett
The U.S. death toll in Iraq has reached 528 so far. For the last six months they break down as follows:
August: 35
September: 30
October: 43
November: 82
December: 40
January: 45
That's a total of 275 deaths for the last six months. This equals 45.8 per month, or 1.5 per day. If anything, the death toll has been accelerating since Saddam's capture.
Yes ..... and now I'm asking myself ..... what is it rwingett wants to say ? What is your point ?
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I'd like to know as well. I believe the implication is we are not more safe in Iraq than we were when we arrived?
If Iraq was like, say, Korea or even Vietnam, and I'm not trying to say that they are the same, but if there was parity, the major amount of deaths would have happened during primary conflict, and these current deaths would have been considered something like transitional and perhaps expected-to-happen deaths.
I hate it that this is going to be read as if I was not sympathetic to the deaths. I'm just trying to say that, in a very low-loss-of-American-life main conflict, these unfortunate incidents are receiving more attention than perhaps if the primary conflict had lost 10,000+ American lives.
What may be interesting to note is that the loss of Iraqis are continuing in much greater amounts than the loss of Americans. And it's [certain Middle Eastern peoples] doing the deed on their own people.
I think it'll be a long time before the violence of the former leadership will be unlearned. I have a strange suspicion that a military government will be necessary to maintain order even while direct elections are being considered. I don't think that diplomats and dignitaries are going to be good enough. I would love to be proven wrong.
Originally posted by knapperjaNice work on the research, knapperja - thanks. So, the number of US citizens murdered each year in the US is far greater than the total killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, together with all those who died on 9/11? And the number killed each year on US roads is far greater still? Food for thought...
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/02cius.htm
over 14,000 murders per year
Originally posted by rwingetti would be interested to see an identical breakdown for how many iraqis have been killed by u.s. forces. (some people would say that many iraqis have killed by iraqis should be included, as a representation of whether that war is finishing, but that is an endlessly debatable point i suspect)
The U.S. death toll in Iraq has reached 528 so far. For the last six months they break down as follows:
August: 35
September: 30
October: 43
November: 82
December: 40
January: 45
That's a total of 275 deaths for the last six mo ...[text shortened]... the death toll has been accelerating since Saddam's capture.
as always for war :'(
Originally posted by flexmoreAlso include how many innocent Iraqis are murdered by Al-Qaeda by suicide bombs
i would be interested to see an identical breakdown for how many iraqis have been killed by u.s. forces. (some people would say that many iraqis have killed by iraqis should be included, as a representation of whether that war is finishing, but that is an endlessly debatable point i suspect)
as always for war :'(
Originally posted by chancremechanicthe difficulty there will be determining between which deaths are related to the war, and the which deaths are of a more domestic nature; as we have seen in the case of u.s.a. the domestic figures can easily and massively distort the figures.
Also include how many innocent Iraqis are murdered by Al-Qaeda by suicide bombs
that said, i do agree that many of these are related to the war between usa and whoever it is they/you are fighting in iraq.
in the interests seeing some clear truth it may be revealing to see the other figure i suggested.
http://www.iraqometer.com
I don't endorse the views of the owner of the site. I believe that Mr. Kay has also stated that the US wasn't alone in their views that Iraq had WMD, even used them on their own people. It's just that certain people have claimed that the perhaps inaccurate intelligence was somehow embellished by the government. I'm just surprised that WMD wasn't planted if there was such a conspiracy.
i am amazed that no "wmd projects" were found.
if australia was subjected to similar scrutiny in our universties, defence research institutions, nuclear reactor and commercial labs i imagine many dubious projects would be discovered - let alone the planting of evidence that would be predictable (supposing the self interest by the scrutinisers).
there seems to have been a second reactor in australia decades ago, now demolished 🙂, dedicated to the bomb.