22 Aug 11
Originally posted by trev33However, if it is the first hand in the shoe, then no, you do not hit it.
it's the first hand in a new deck, you can't see the dealers card.
If it is toward the end and there have been a bunch of face cards shown, then yes, you hit it if the dealer shows 9 or better
22 Aug 11
In Pontoon, the British version of Blackjack the dealer
does not display his first card. (Perhaps Trev has them mixed up.)
When I played you could not stick on 16 or under (this included the dealer).
(sounds like Trev is again mixed up.)
Welcome back Gramps.
Nothing has changed since you have been away.
(Trev is still all mixed up.) 😉
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22 Aug 11
Originally posted by greenpawn34so, in conclusion i'm just a bit mixed up? 😕
In Pontoon, the British version of Blackjack the dealer
does not display his first card. (Perhaps Trev has them mixed up.)
When I played you could not stick on 16 or under (this included the dealer).
(sounds like Trev is again mixed up.)
Welcome back Gramps.
Nothing has changed since you have been away.
(Trev is still all mixed up.) 😉
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22 Aug 11
Originally posted by shortcircuitand if you've lost count of what has been shown?
However, if it is the first hand in the shoe, then no, you do not hit it.
If it is toward the end and there have been a bunch of face cards shown, then yes, you hit it if the dealer shows 9 or better
generally stick on 16?
22 Aug 11
Originally posted by greenpawn34You are very mixed up.
In Pontoon, the British version of Blackjack the dealer
does not display his first card. (Perhaps Trev has them mixed up.)
When I played you could not stick on 16 or under (this included the dealer).
(sounds like Trev is again mixed up.)
Welcome back Gramps.
Nothing has changed since you have been away.
(Trev is still all mixed up.) 😉
The dealer only displays their second card.
The player always has the option to hit or stand until their total exceeds 21 then they are considered "bust".
The dealer must always hit 16 and under and may never hit 17 or above.
These are the rules and they are universal.
There is a variation where all cards are dealt face up (player's and the dealer's)
In this variation, there is no bonus paid on a blackjack, whereas it is usually 1.5 to 1 payout.
This game is generally where they are instructing the dealers to speed count and recognize hands.
It is fairly scarce and they don't allow very large wagers.
It makes all of the player's decisions pretty easy when the player trails, but there are no guarantees of victory.
22 Aug 11
Originally posted by trev33The aggressive line says to hit under 17 against face cards and 10's
and if you've lost count of what has been shown?
generally stick on 16?
The rest is guts and intuition.
I play a defensive strategy and I count cards.
Although, nowadays, with the automatic card shufflers being employed,
card counting is nearly impossible as they are playing a single deck and shuffling every hand.
It is also tough in a 4 or 6 deck shoe where they only deal about 2/3 of the way through the shoe before they shuffle.
If you can get a single deck game, that is always preferred.
To do well against the casino, you must play perfect and then get some luck.
The house edge is around 1.2 % without the automatic shufflers, and nearly 2% with them.
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22 Aug 11
Originally posted by shortcircuiti know there's aways a min and max bet on each table but what do you think of the theory of doubling your bet each time you lose and going back to the original bet when you win a hand?
The aggressive line says to hit under 17 against face cards and 10's
The rest is guts and intuition.
I play a defensive strategy and I count cards.
Although, nowadays, with the automatic card shufflers being employed,
card counting is nearly impossible as they are playing a single deck and shuffling every hand.
It is also tough in a 4 or 6 deck s ...[text shortened]... luck.
The house edge is around 1.2 % without the automatic shufflers, and nearly 2% with them.
lets say the min bet on a table is $5 and the max $200.
that would give you 6 attempts to win your $5... $5, $10, $20, $40, $80, $160
what are the odds of losing 6 hands in a row?