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"That is my two cents"
I am sure most people have come accross this (mostly american) expression - used when somebody is putting a point accross.

The question is - where did it come from? Are there some sort of organised debates held in america where you have to pay in order to put a point accross? I guess it would explain why it is only possible to become president if you are a millionaire...

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My two cents: The inventor of that expression is Ken Brockman, the fictional character from The Simpsons.

Edit. Not so sure, so make it just one cent, ok?

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Originally posted by Seitse
My two cents: The inventor of that expression is Ken Brockman, the fictional character from The Simpsons.

Edit. Not so sure, so make it just one cent, ok?
It was around loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong before the Simpsons, but I don't know how it originated either. I'm still trying to figure out where "pushing the envelope" came from.

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Originally posted by Tyrannosauruschex
"That is my two cents"
I am sure most people have come accross this (mostly american) expression - used when somebody is putting a point accross.

The question is - where did it come from? Are there some sort of organised debates held in america where you have to pay in order to put a point accross? I guess it would explain why it is only possible to become president if you are a millionaire...
Surely you've heard another american expression, "opinions are like a-holes, everybody has one."

By saying "That's my two cents", we acknowledge that our opinion is actually not worth all that much, perhaps only two cents.

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From the British slang, "my two tuppence". It implies that what you are about to say next (if I can put my 2 cents worth in here...) is just your opinion and may not be worth much, ie 2 cents.

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Originally posted by pawnhandler
I'm still trying to figure out where "pushing the envelope" came from.
Envelope here is not the kind you mail a letter in, but a math term. The expression probably came from airplane test pilots seeing just how much their machines could take.

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Originally posted by MontyMoose
Envelope here is not the kind you mail a letter in, but a math term. The expression probably came from airplane test pilots seeing just how much their machines could take.
OH!!! That makes sense then! Thanks! I kept envisioning people in a board room pushing this white legal-sized envelope back and forth at each other.

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Originally posted by Suzianne
By saying "That's my two cents", we acknowledge that our opinion is actually not worth all that much, perhaps only two cents.
I should be a millionaire by now, then...

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Originally posted by Crowley
I should be a millionaire by now, then...
In your mind, maybe you are, since we often find our own opinions to be gold compared to everyone else's "two cents", or the also common "plug nickel".

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Originally posted by MontyMoose
From the British slang, "my two tuppence". It implies that what you are about to say next (if I can put my 2 cents worth in here...) is just your opinion and may not be worth much, ie 2 cents.
"two tuppence" is redundant.

tuppence = two pence

But you are right. That's where it came from. It is also related to the "Penny for your thoughts" idiom.

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Don't you mean 'fuppence'?

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Originally posted by Suzianne
In your mind, maybe you are, since we often find our own opinions to be gold compared to everyone else's "two cents", or the also common "plug nickel".
No, I'm just very opinionated...

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Originally posted by pawnhandler
It was around loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong before the Simpsons, but I don't know how it originated either. I'm still trying to figure out where "pushing the envelope" came from.
MM is right. I believe the term is derived from aviation. The envelope being the parameters that the aircraft safely operates in. Such as stall speeds, spin rates, flap settings, VNE (velocity never exceed) and such. The envelope dictates what the aircraft can sustain structurally and aerobatically. Thus "pushing the envelope" is taking the aircraft to the edges of its performance capabilities.

Why use envelope as the term? Dunno, aviation has a lot of odd terminology.
And that's my tuppence.

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Originally posted by pawnhandler
It was around loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong before the Simpsons, but I don't know how it originated either. I'm still trying to figure out where "pushing the envelope" came from.
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/push-the-envelope.html