Originally posted by AThousandYoungWhere are the pikemen?
I wonder why Phalanx, Heavy Hoplites and Pikemen are differentiated from one another. I thought Hoplites fought in Phalanxes; Pikemen fought in Macedonian Phalaxes; but this isn't how the troops seem to be described in game.
Hoplites are heavy spearmen; the front rank and some of the second rank can get their spears in; phalangites have much longer spears (pikes, although there's a particular word for them--sarissa?) and can fight in four ranks. The phalangite is an immense improvement on the hoplite!
Originally posted by Bosse de NageThey're Greek units. The way you describe the phalanx sounds like the Macedonian one...but then why are the pikemen Greek, and what differentiates them from phalangites?
Where are the pikemen?
Hoplites are heavy spearmen; the front rank and some of the second rank can get their spears in; phalangites have much longer spears (pikes, although there's a particular word for them--sarissa?) and can fight in four ranks. The phalangite is an immense improvement on the hoplite!
An interesting tactical question came up for me this turn. It's not too critical either way so I'll talk about it.
Suppose my heavy fleet remained around Crete. Would Crete be better protected from attack if the Marine and Light Cavalry units acted as marines to coordinate with the fleet or if they manned the fortifications?
Originally posted by AThousandYoungNot sure ... archers in a lvl 5 fortification are invincible, though ...
An interesting tactical question came up for me this turn. It's not too critical either way so I'll talk about it.
Suppose my heavy fleet remained around Crete. Would Crete be better protected from attack if the Marine and Light Cavalry units acted as marines to coordinate with the fleet or if they manned the fortifications?
Originally posted by AThousandYoungDepends how many marines the enemy fleet has. Marines die first.
Suppose my heavy fleet remained around Crete. Would Crete be better protected from attack if the Marine and Light Cavalry units acted as marines to coordinate with the fleet or if they manned the fortifications?
Hey, guys. Long time.
The Greeks had used the phalanx, a formation in which there were typically ten ranks in depth. The front few could actually fight (their spears being long enough) but they rear ranks provided immense shock value by placing their shields in the backs of the men in front of them and driving with their legs.
My understanding is that the hoplite was the individual infantry soldier, heavily armed and armored.
The Macedonians took the existing Greek phalanx and lengthened the spear to 16' (which sounds ungainly to me) and it was called a sarissa, as BDN pointed out. This enabled more of the ranks to fight at one time, but it was really the Macedonian cavalry that made them special.
My guess is that pikemen and phalanx, in this game, are both essentiually the same, but one is a slight improvement on the other and, for game purposes, needs a different name.
So, is the game worth playing? I've still only played the Medieval game -- in fact, I just drew Aquitaine again.
GBW
Originally posted by GottschalkHello!
Hey, guys. Long time.
The Greeks had used the phalanx, a formation in which there were typically ten ranks in depth. The front few could actually fight (their spears being long enough) but they rear ranks provided immense shock value by placing their shields in the backs of the men in front of them and driving with their legs.
My understanding is ...[text shortened]... ing? I've still only played the Medieval game -- in fact, I just drew Aquitaine again.
GBW
It's definitely worth playing.
Did MD get upgraded since mmw? For example, does it use fiefs, and have the Scots been introduced?