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Alekhine a NAZI ??

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i just read this in another thread:
"Remember Alekhine pro-Nazi writings of the 30's? No. today we just remember his great contributions to chess."

so i had a little peak around on the net.
at:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/7378/nazi.htm
i found:
"In 1941 Alexander Alekhine wrote six Nazi articles which first appeared in the Paris newspaper Pariser Zeitung. He wrote a series of articles for Die Deutsche Zeitung in den Niederlanden called "Jewish and Aryan Chess." The articles were reproduced in Deutsch Schachzeitung.

The articles tried to show proof that Jews played defensive, cowardly chess and the Aryan chessplayers played attacking chess that was aggressive and brave. He had hoped that after the death of Lasker, Lasker would be the last Jewish chess champion of the world. (Lasker's sister died in a gas chamber at a Nazi concentration camp).

Alekhine defined Jewish chess as material profit at all costs. It was opportunism at its best. It was defend at all costs. He claimed that there had never been a real chess artist of Jewish origin. He mentioned that the representatives of Aryan chess included Philidor, Labourdonnais, Anderssen, Morphy, Tchigorin, Pillsbury, Marshall, Capablanca, Bogoljubov, Euwe, Eliskases, and Keres. For Jewish players, there was only Steinitz and Lasker.

In April 1941 Alekhine left France for Lisbon, Portugal. His wife, Grace Wishard, stayed behind to save her castle at Saint Aubin-le-Cauf, near Dieppe. The Germans refused to give an exit visa for his wife. He made an effort to get a visa to come to America, but it was refused."

is this where fischer gets his stupid ideas from?

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Originally posted by flexmore
i just read this in another thread:
"Remember Alekhine pro-Nazi writings of the 30's? No. today we just remember his great contributions to chess."

so i had a little peak around on the net.
at:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/7378/nazi.htm
i found:
"In 1941 Alexander Alekhine wrote six Nazi articles which first appeared in the Paris n ...[text shortened]... a to come to America, but it was refused."

is this where fischer gets his stupid ideas from?
Another great example of love the games, not the person. This is sad, could he really have believed this way? Why are the chess greats so um.... crazy?

If you ever find any dirt on Tal, I beg you not to tell me. He is my favorite.

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Originally posted by Nyxie
Another great example of love the games, not the person. This is sad, could he really have believed this way? Why are the chess greats so um.... crazy?

If you ever find any dirt on Tal, I beg you not to tell me. He is my favorite.

Nyxie
He dressed in woman's clothing and hung around in bars.
And he wished he'd been a girlie just like his dear papa.

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Originally posted by Nyxie
Another great example of love the games, not the person. This is sad, could he really have believed this way? Why are the chess greats so um.... crazy?

If you ever find any dirt on Tal, I beg you not to tell me. He is my favorite.

Nyxie
another reason why kasparov is so amazing - he actually comes accross as, well, normal!

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Kasparov??? normal?? errr not quite ...

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Originally posted by demonseed
Kasparov??? normal?? errr not quite ...
He's abnormally good at chess but he's not a raving lunatic who thinks the Jewish people (I got it right) are going to kill him in his sleep.

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a rec for the parantheses!
🙂

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Originally posted by flexmore
i just read this in another thread:
"Remember Alekhine pro-Nazi writings of the 30's? No. today we just remember his great contributions to chess."

so i had a little peak around on the net.
at:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/7378/nazi.htm
i found:
"In 1941 Alexander Alekhine wrote six Nazi articles which first appeared in the Paris n ...[text shortened]... a to come to America, but it was refused."

is this where fischer gets his stupid ideas from?
(before I begin, reference to religion and race below! These are NOT meant to be derogartory, but only serve to abbreviate the subject matter. Should they offend, please read another post).

I am not responding so much to your quote, as the basic ideas behind racist comments:

Here in South Africa, whites (of which I am one), tend(ed) to blame crime on blacks. The usual comment is of the nature "90% of all crimes are committed by blacks, so they must be bad". Well, the newsflash is that 95% of South Africans are black, so the fact that ONLY 90% of crimes are committed by blacks only serves to REFUTE the argument. Indeed, if the "fact" were true, blacks must be more law-abiding than other races.

The same with the racist (anti-semitic) quote by Alekhine - if 2 Jewish players are amongst his group, where in the world Jews are outnumbered by other religions by over 100-1, it must show that Jews are better chess players than gentiles?

My belief is that statistics, given without context, are meaningless. As a wise man once said "99.7% of all statistics are made up!"

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Originally posted by Alcra
a rec for the parantheses!
🙂
Finally someone who appreciates my efforts to further the cause of parantheses (They don't get enough credit).

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Originally posted by flexmore
i just read this in another thread:
"Remember Alekhine pro-Nazi writings of the 30's? No. today we just remember his great contributions to chess."

so i had a little peak around on the net.
at:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/7378/nazi.htm
i found:
"In 1941 Alexander Alekhine wrote six Nazi articles which first appeared in the Paris n ...[text shortened]... a to come to America, but it was refused."

is this where fischer gets his stupid ideas from?
I think it is generally agreed that he did not believe in what he wrote in those articles.Of course,only Alekhine himself really knew what he believed,but people that knew him well,say he most certainly was not a racist,nor an antisemit(sp?).Alekhine was a bit of a strange man,he was not very much in touch with the outside world.He only had 3 major interests in his life: chess,women and cats.He lived for chess,playing chess was all he wanted to do,and whatever was going on in the world was none of his businness.Now he found himself in Nazi Germany,and if he wanted to play chess,he would have to play in Nazi tourneys.The notorious Nazi propaganda machine couldn't pass on the opportunity to use a world champion for their purposes.So,basically,he had the choice,write these articles and play chess,or don't write them and be denied the right to play chess(or maybe worse).So he wrote them.

That's how the story goes,in big lines anyway 🙂

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Originally posted by flexmore
i just read this in another thread:
"Remember Alekhine pro-Nazi writings of the 30's? No. today we just remember his great contributions to chess."

so i had a little peak around on the net.
at:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/7378/nazi.htm
i found:
"In 1941 Alexander Alekhine wrote six Nazi articles which first appeared in the Paris n ...[text shortened]... a to come to America, but it was refused."

is this where fischer gets his stupid ideas from?
Maybe he was drunk when he wrote that, the guy was drunk all the time. Some say he lost his match to euwe because of this.

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