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Originally posted by dk3nny
This leads back to the culture thing and how it ties so closely to a language. You could just as easily say that your manner changed due to the culture you were in, more so than the language you spoke.
But I was in my own culture. Actually, it was within a subculture to which we both belonged. But the rules of that subculture included deference to others as opposed to following your own wishes or ego.

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Originally posted by dk3nny
Well i suppose there is a difference between not being able to acticulate what you are thinking in a language and not having that thought because its not in your vocabulary.
Yes - my thoughts are more than just language. Still, I find that I can get completely stuck or running in circles if I think in a language I don't know well enough. That probably wouldn't happen to people who primarily use different thinking modes (e.g. thinking in pictures).

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Originally posted by reader1107
But I was in my own culture. Actually, it was within a subculture to which we both belonged. But the rules of that subculture included deference to others as opposed to following your own wishes or ego.
The same as the way the Japanese have an imbedded respect of others in their society, the idea of "saving face"..

I know i'm kinda jumping around a bit here but i'd love to hear from someone who learned (or speaks) Japanese or Chinese, a language that has images, symbols and ideas attached to words and how learning and using a language like that is different to a strictly phonetic langfuage like english.

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Originally posted by Nordlys
Yes - my thoughts are more than just language. Still, I find that I can get completely stuck or running in circles if I think in a language I don't know well enough. That probably wouldn't happen to people who primarily use different thinking modes (e.g. thinking in pictures).
OK, that brings up a question. Well, two. I was on a forum once and people started talking about how they think. I thought everyone was the same, of course, with my own thinking pattern being the default setting. Then I learned that some people think in written words. I think in spoken words (either that, or the voices are winning). That made me wonder if deaf people who sign think in their sign language.

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Originally posted by reader1107
OK, that brings up a question. Well, two. I was on a forum once and people started talking about how they think. I thought everyone was the same, of course, with my own thinking pattern being the default setting. Then I learned that some people think in written words. I think in spoken words (either that, or the voices are winning). That made me wonder if deaf people who sign think in their sign language.
Hmm, its kinda hard to think about how you think isn't it 🙂

I remember reading a book by Stephen Pinker about how the mind works and he used a term called Mentalese, basically its a concept of the way we think in a combination of words, images, sounds, smells etc.

I also saw a very interesting program there a good few months back about an autistic savant who was able to so amazing things, esp memory feats and mathamatics, a bit like "rainman" However this guy was also very articule and able to express how his thought worked..

When he was diong some very advanced maths, he basically has a shape associated in his mind with all numbers and when doing maths he just combines this shapes into a common blob and I guess just works on what the resulting shape will be and hey presto, thats the answer..
I was facinated by this, just how maths could be done with images..

I think the program was called the boy with the amazing brain. maybe its on google videos i dunno..

Anyway on that note i must leave and destroy a few brain cells, a friend is having a party on his roof terace and i promised i'd turn up..

Looking forward to picking up on this later though.
Ciao,

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Originally posted by reader1107
What would your dream team be? If you could pull any players from their prime years (like Montana-Rice), whom would you pick?
..condeeliza rice plays the piano...not football...

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Originally posted by reader1107
If YOU were to start an intelligent thread, what would it be about?
Me.

But modesty prevents it.

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Originally posted by Bowmann
Me.

But modesty prevents it.
LOL I'm touched by your humility, as always. Kind of you to drop in on the thread and grace it with your presence!🙂

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Originally posted by reinfeld
..condeeliza rice plays the piano...not football...
but she plays in Montana...

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...i have decided that your cat stole that guitar and that is why it looks left and right ( waiting to get arrested )...

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Originally posted by reinfeld
...i have decided that your cat stole that guitar and that is why it looks left and right ( waiting to get arrested )...
not stole -- re-allocated.

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..but to get back to your intellligent thread..i can offer that an occult
chemists ( actually two of them ) used occult methods to deduce that
neon had an isotope variation...they visualized the element neon and
explained how what they saw looked different that the regular element
neon..years later the physiciist aston,...looking at their work..found that there was a variation to neon...he called it meta-neon...what he had found was the first isotope...isotope ( variations on an element with an additional electron ) had not been known before...then we got
to radioactive isotopes and boom..the atom bomb, etc....but my point is that there is some evidence of life other than the natural reality we
currently exist in as foreseen mentally by these occult perceivers and it
was later proven to be so thru a scientific method....now i am getting a
psychic image....there is a police car outside your house...he is coming to the door...i see you packing up that guitar and...no..no...i see you running to your desk to grab a pencil to try and fake a receipt
from the music store..it will not work...it will the air guitar for you for
30 days at the county jail cat..

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Originally posted by reinfeld
..but to get back to your intellligent thread..i can offer that an occult
chemists ( actually two of them ) used occult methods to deduce that
neon had an isotope variation...they visualized the element neon and
explained how what they saw looked different that the regular element
neon..years later the physiciist aston,...looking at their work..found th ...[text shortened]... c store..it will not work...it will the air guitar for you for
30 days at the county jail cat..
But officer! Reinfeld gave it to me! I didn't know it had a hidden compartment with neon in it!

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The title of this thread has quickly become a misnomer.

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Originally posted by Palynka
I meant REAL football. But I didn't mean it.
You can call it 'real football' when someone takes a 'real stretcher ride' or they have a 'real fight'.

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