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Your being facetious, right? Sounds like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Anyway, regarding potential implications for a classroom, first we need to note that the parallel is not perfect. This was about small groups of individuals working together for a common goal. It's not exactly the same setup as a class.

But I guess one could expect that the presence of naughty children to bring out more naughtiness in their classmates. That's not a reason to dump the naughty children, of course.


Originally posted by Palynka


You know who they are.
PFC members?

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Originally posted by Palynka
You know who they are.
Are you comparing bad apples and bad oranges?

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Originally posted by HandyAndy
Are you comparing bad apples and bad oranges?
Oh, wait... now I know who OP was talking about.

P-

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Originally posted by Palynka
http://liberalorder.typepad.com/the_liberal_order/files/bad_apples_rob.pdf

A study seems to show that when a "bad apple" individual is put in a group then other members in that group start behaving like the bad apple.

The interesting corollary is that the best predictor of a group's performance is what the worst group member is like.

So why am I p ...[text shortened]... the lowest common denominator. And don't we know how true that is.

You know who they are.
every time i ever cut into a bad apple it had a brownish, rusty color to it...


rookie

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Originally posted by rookie54
every time i ever cut into a bad apple it had a brownish, rusty color to it...


rookie
How rusty was it?

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
How rusty was it?
extremely rusty, on the verge of corroded...
holes everywhere...
especially in the apple logic center...
only the skin wuz holding it all together...

but,
it did not spoil the whole barrel...

rookie

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Originally posted by rookie54
but,
it did not spoil the whole barrel...
...because you took it out in time. Or else it would.

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Originally posted by Palynka
...because you took it out in time. Or else it would.
pull out???!!!???

NEVAH!!!


that hurts...
and,
itz cold...
rookie

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Originally posted by Palynka
...because you took it out in time. Or else it would.
wow.. you are really good at this.

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Originally posted by Drunk22
wow.. you are really good at this.
😏

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Originally posted by rookie54
every time i ever cut into a bad apple it had a brownish, rusty color to it...


rookie
Ha, ha...Lame!

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Originally posted by rookie54
extremely rusty, on the verge of corroded...
holes everywhere...
especially in the apple logic center...
only the skin wuz holding it all together...

but,
it did not spoil the whole barrel...

rookie
And not even all the money in the world could make it better again.

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Originally posted by Palynka
http://liberalorder.typepad.com/the_liberal_order/files/bad_apples_rob.pdf

A study seems to show that when a "bad apple" individual is put in a group then other members in that group start behaving like the bad apple.

The interesting corollary is that the best predictor of a group's performance is what the worst group member is like.

So why am I p ...[text shortened]... the lowest common denominator. And don't we know how true that is.

You know who they are.
I'm sure there are exceptions, yes, but in my experience, without another, more positive "red apple" in the mix, this can be true!! For example (like in the article), I've had jobs where everybody was miserable because management was miserable, morale was horrible, the boss played favorites, people gossiped, drew lines, etc. Because of just a bad apple or two. That sucked, what a mental place.

I've seen this with my kids, too. When they spend any amount of time with a friend or two that I consider "trouble" or emotionally manipulative/destructive, they ALL start acting crazy! Suddenly, everyone is fighting, they're angry, sides are taken, it's horrible. This happened recently when I let one of these friends spend the entire weekend here and the result was a huge fight between MY kids and quite a lot of mean-spirited discussion and behavior. More escalated than I had ever seen. These kids, while innocent because their home life is really a mess, come over here and create havoc and quite honestly, I'm glad when they leave. There are only two of them but I prefer they come here than my kids go to their houses. I have seen this behavior in kids time and again over the years. Another great example is middle school cliques. Don't even get me started. I just try and discuss with my kids how "pack meanness" as I call it, isn't a good thing. Neither is giving attention to drama llamas and baiters.

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Originally posted by Palynka
http://liberalorder.typepad.com/the_liberal_order/files/bad_apples_rob.pdf

A study seems to show that when a "bad apple" individual is put in a group then other members in that group start behaving like the bad apple.

The interesting corollary is that the best predictor of a group's performance is what the worst group member is like.

So why am I p ...[text shortened]... the lowest common denominator. And don't we know how true that is.

You know who they are.
oh, oh...pick me! pick me!