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    30 Oct '15 18:451 edit
    ... generally assumed to indicate a reasonable level of intelligence.

    It's an offence against intelligence and reason to create rules which no-one knows or understands. There is basic legislation that protects citizens against arrest without charge, punishment without the chance of defence, arbitrary imprisonment without any charge (though poor Shaker Aamer has been imprisoned for fourteen years in Guantanamo in exactly those conditions.)

    I do not believe that Red Hot Pawn wants to exercise arbitrary retribution for crimes that its subscribers neither intended nor understood that they were committing.

    I once again appeal to moderators to explain why very careful and inoffensively constructed posts are being arbitrarily deleted without any warning or explanation.

    I particularly regret the deletion of my earliest thoughtful post today because I wasn't suspicious enough to make a copy. It headed what became a substantial thread with a number of very careful posts from equally careful members, and my opening post attracted many thumbs up recommendations triggering an automatic information alert telling me that many people had recommended it.

    But it's gone. All vanished. And a lot of careful work went into that. Now I make copies.

    I'm a subscriber, entirely loyal to this site. My name is good with at least one moderator, currently unfortunately not on duty, and also, I believe, my reputation is good with Russ. So, whoever is currently moderating this forum, please think twice before erasing this post. It doesn't deserve deletion. And please bear in mind that I did not cause the closure of the Clans forum. I've broken no rules. Yet the person at the root of the whole problem is currently still active on the site, and re-establishing his third clan, the other two having been closed by Russ as a disciplinary measure.

    Surely this deleting business has just got to stop? And it would be lovely if we could soon have our own forum back, please, delightful as this one is?

    Please?
  2. Subscriberrookie54
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    30 Oct '15 18:50
    Originally posted by Startreader
    ... generally assumed to indicate a reasonable level of intelligence.

    It's an offence against intelligence and reason to create rules which no-one knows or understands. There is basic legislation that protects citizens against arrest without charge, punishment without the chance of defence, arbitrary imprisonment without any charge (though poor Shake ...[text shortened]... lovely if we could soon have our own forum back, please, delightful
    as this one is?

    Please?
    highly logical,
    well thought out,
    eloquently presented...

    the answer is no...
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    30 Oct '15 18:56
    Originally posted by rookie54
    highly logical,
    well thought out,
    eloquently presented...

    the answer is no...
    Thank you, but why do you say that, please?

    Are you a moderator? A moderator told me it would be coming back.
  4. santa cruz, ca.
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    30 Oct '15 19:19
    Originally posted by Startreader
    ... generally assumed to indicate a reasonable level of intelligence.

    It's an offence against intelligence and reason to create rules which no-one knows or understands. There is basic legislation that protects citizens against arrest without charge, punishment without the chance of defence, arbitrary imprisonment without any charge (though poor Shake ...[text shortened]... e lovely if we could soon have our own forum back, please, delightful as this one is?

    Please?
    you have to act on our behalf
    you seem the most reasonable of the clan exiles, at least the most mature
    hope they listen
  5. SubscriberWycombe Al
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    30 Oct '15 19:30
    moderators are trigger happy at the moment, just mention the word clan and the gestapo will be on to you
  6. santa cruz, ca.
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    30 Oct '15 19:36
    Originally posted by Wycombe Al
    moderators are trigger happy at the moment, just mention the word clan and the gestapo will be on to you
    maybe we should use a code word for 'clan'
    we could call it the brotherhood
  7. Subscriberrookie54
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    30 Oct '15 19:37
    Originally posted by lemondrop
    maybe we should use a code word for 'clan'
    we could call it the brotherhood
    illuminatti...
  8. Subscribercoquette
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    30 Oct '15 19:59
    Rebs
  9. Joined
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    30 Oct '15 20:11
    Originally posted by lemondrop
    you have to act on our behalf
    you seem the most reasonable of the clan exiles, at least the most mature
    hope they listen
    Thank you, Lemon. That's nice of you.

    I don't know what I can do but I'm thinking about it.

    It's a rotten situation and not of our making.
  10. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    30 Oct '15 21:04
    The Clans forum will have to come back.
    We cant have the GF cluttered up with thoughtful posts.
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    30 Oct '15 21:34
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    The Clans forum will have to come back.
    We cant have the GF cluttered up with thoughtful posts.
    come on the Aussies!
  12. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    30 Oct '15 23:17
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    come on the Aussies!
    😠
  13. wherever I am needed
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    30 Oct '15 23:19
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    come on the Aussies!
    why you backing them, Robbie?

    a more arrogant 'winning nation' it is hard to find!

    come on the Blacks!
  14. SubscriberMctayto
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    31 Oct '15 02:09
    Originally posted by Startreader
    Thank you, Lemon. That's nice of you.

    I don't know what I can do but I'm thinking about it.

    It's a rotten situation and not of our making.
    Even you can put two and two together.
    You brought it to an end by all your lies, until that time it was banter between rivals
  15. Subscriberradioactive69
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    31 Oct '15 04:11
    Originally posted by Mctayto
    Even you can put two and two together.
    You brought it to an end by all your lies, until that time it was banter between rivals
    So what lies did she tell? If she called you a sandbagger we all know that's true, you openly admit it. So tell us kind sir, what were the lies.
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