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Has anyone else noticed that you can't claim a draw when you get down to a king & bishop vs king ending? I have a game that my opponent is shamefully refusing to accept a draw in (http://www.redhotpawn.com/gameanalysis/boardhistory.php?gameid=425973) - presumably he/she is trying to win on time - and I can't seem to claim the draw

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Originally posted by pizzathehut
Has anyone else noticed that you can't claim a draw when you get down to a king & bishop vs king ending? I have a game that my opponent is shamefully refusing to accept a draw in (http://www.redhotpawn.com/gameanalysis/boardhistory.php?gameid=425973) - presumably he/she is trying to win on time - and I can't seem to claim the draw
there is a claim draw button ... try that ... i imagine russ will put this in there some time.

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I haven’t added all insufficient material draws yet. I will correct this in the future.

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Originally posted by Russ
I haven’t added all insufficient material draws yet. I will correct this in the future.

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Do we have a 50 move rule on RHP?

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Yes

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Originally posted by Corsair
Do we have a 50 move rule on RHP?
forgive my ignorance, but... what's a 50 move rule?

Angie 😳

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No piece capture or pawn movement has occurred for over 50 consecutive moves (100 half moves). Therefore the game has not progressed and a draw may be claimed by either player during their next move.

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Originally posted by angie88
forgive my ignorance, but... what's a 50 move rule?

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I think its fifty moves without a capture or a pawn move is a draw.

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thank you 🙂

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Originally posted by angie88
thank you 🙂
I have only very recently thought about it because I played a game with Knight Time that went to rook and bishop (me) vs bishop of opposite colour and pawn (KT). We agreed a draw but it would have gone down to the fifty move rule if I had been bloody minded about it (assuming no errors in play of course which is another thing 😉)

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Originally posted by pizzathehut
Has anyone else noticed that you can't claim a draw when you get down to a king & bishop vs king ending? I have a game that my opponent is shamefully refusing to accept a draw in (http://www.redhotpawn.com/gameanalysis/boardhistory.ph ...[text shortened]... she is trying to win on time - and I can't seem to claim the draw
I just checked out your game - its not really very sportsmanlike is it?

At least you have the 50 move rule eventually though.

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Originally posted by pizzathehut
Has anyone else noticed that you can't claim a draw when you get down to a king & bishop vs king ending? I have a game that my opponent is shamefully refusing to accept a draw in (http://www.redhotpawn.com/gameanalysis/boardhistory.php?gameid=425973) - presumably he/she is trying to win on time - and I can't seem to claim the draw
http://www.redhotpawn.com/core/viewpublicgames.php?p1name=pizzathehut&p2name=skeeter&showgamescode=A&isminiboard=on

wow!
well done pizza!

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Originally posted by pizzathehut
Has anyone else noticed that you can't claim a draw when you get down to a king & bishop vs king ending? I have a game that my opponent is shamefully refusing to accept a draw in (http://www.redhotpawn.com/gameanalysis/boardhistory.php?gameid=425973) - presumably he/she is trying to win on time - and I can't seem to claim the draw
Well, since pizzaman has made the decision to bring this issue into the RHP forumae domain, I feel I need to qualify my position, against advise to the contrary.
Yes, the game in question is hopelessly drawn and under normal circumstances I would acceed to the draw, as I conceeded matches against pizzaman earlier. That lead to some independant analysis and some revelations that I had already suspected.
Simply put I am playing his engine. Its a 90% match with first choice moves and 100% over first and second preferences, across all of our current matches including the two I have resigned. Eight in total. A good test base I would have thought.
I ran the games past a collegue here at CU who has an obscene fetish regarding chess engines and then as a blind test ran those same games, with no prompting, to another acquaintance here at RHP who has a bent for these exorcisims and it was "snap" Identical results.
So, what do do. Given the climate prevailing on RHP at this time regarding cheating I was persuaded to hold off until the 'cheat squad' were empowered and then I could forward my evidence with an expectation of some justice.

No such squad has been empowered and it is looking less likely as the squabbles ensue. I was hoping Russ would get off his procrastinating backside and do something!

So, Im holding off the draw until the 100 half moves has been satisfied in the forlorn hope that Russ/Admin will have some policy in place by then.

I'm aware that I will not win any popularity contests here, but I would hope this issue transcends all of that. I'm saying that pizzathehut is cheating by using an engine to generate his moves in violation of the TOS, and I can prove it, if RHP provides a platform / forum by which I may present this evidence.
I was happy to let all this go anonomously to the cheat police but I was called out and you all just know what happens when someone rattles this cage.

Michelle ( aka RHP skeeter )

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Originally posted by Corsair
[b]I just checked out your game - its not really very sportsmanlike is it?
No it certainly is not - I've had a couple of arguments with this player over various unsportsmanlike bits of behaviour that he/she likes to indulge in. Ah well, at least I've got a good record against this player....

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damn, but you might want to make that 6 games skeeter.

i was so happy he was beating you ... you ... the one we love to hate.

hate is a bit strong ... fear maybe ... perhaps just dread 😉

ever gonna play me? my engine is only fritz1 and my computer is a 186.

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