'Fear Cocktail'

Originally posted by Ice Cold
Yes, until I have a few. 😀

True, even though you still notice but let it pass.

Originally posted by pawnhandler
You drink from a glass? Amateur 🙄

Now, Pawnie, are you still slinging that ancient gourd? Pls forgive, -gb

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Now, Pawnie, are you still slinging that ancient gourd? Pls forgive, -gb

Nope, not for many a year, but I still remember vividly not bothering with a glass.

Originally posted by pawnhandler
Nope, not for many a year, but I still remember vividly not bothering with a glass.

Rings true, Pawnie, with everthing I've learned concerning you.

Think maybe you'd care to opine about the embryo thread post?

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Rings true, Pawnie, with everthing I've learned concerning you.

Think maybe you'd care to opine about the embryo thread post?

Where is it?

Originally posted by pawnhandler
Where is it?

Guess maybe at the top of page one where it belongs.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
'Fear Cocktail'


1. FEAR is a subjective and malfunctioning component of the emotional complex, totally lacking in the ability to reason or think.

2. The more things you SURRENDER TO FEAR today, the even greater number of things you will fear tomorrow.

3. The extent to which you surrender to fear, the greater the control and POWER OF FEAR in y ...[text shortened]...
Please drive safely. Cheerio!"



Edits:To correct spelling errors for Nordlys. 🙂

Actually, I disagree, to a degree.

I think one can have both fear and courage -- a fear of something and yet the courage to act in spite of the fear, or fully cognizant of the fear and yet not letting the fear prevent action. For example, once a woman is raped, she no longer takes her safety for granted in the way that others do. While some can be debilitated by fear forever more, others have fear in a hyper awareness sort of way but carry on their lives anyway. They don't let the fear have a negative impact on their lives or as little as possible, but they use it to make more well thought out choices and less impulsive ones. They also may become more prone to trust their instincts about people and situations -- including listening to when they feel fear around a person or situation.

Fear of losing one's job, home, spouse -- in some cases these may be irrational but in others it may be a perfectly logical interpretation of the situation at hand. Hopefully this fear would then lead to a positive, corrective action.

However, there are other fears that don't seem that useful or logical. I have a debilitating fear of heights. It isn't pretty. I know what started it, and we're talking an event from like 1965, so it's not reasonable to still have the fear, but that's the way it is. That doesn't make me a magnet for all sorts of subsequent fears.

I think people don't fit into neat little categories. Some people may harvest fears as if they were gathering pumpkins in October, but my guess is that most people have a couple of specialized fears (heights, spiders, clowns) and the rest are brief and situational (job loss, impotence, offspring coming home with unexpected piercing/tatoo/hairstyle/whatever). Perhaps a measure of a person would be how they handle their fears vs. how their fears handle them, rather than assuming the latter is the default setting.

Originally posted by pawnhandler
Actually, I disagree, to a degree.

I think one can have both fear and courage -- a fear of something and yet the courage to act in spite of the fear, or fully cognizant of the fear and yet not letting the fear prevent action. For example, once a woman is raped, she no longer takes her safety for granted in the way that others do. While some can be d ...[text shortened]... s. how their fears handle them, rather than assuming the latter is the default setting.

Pawnie, you've taken the conversation to an entirely new and higher level. What more could a thread starter possibly want or hope for...
'Recommended' your insight and statement of the hopeful way out and back to the land of the living. I salute you! -Bobby

Originally posted by pawnhandler
Actually, I disagree, to a degree.

I think one can have both fear and courage -- a fear of something and yet the courage to act in spite of the fear, or fully cognizant of the fear and yet not letting the fear prevent action. For example, once a woman is raped, she no longer takes her safety for granted in the way that others do. While some can be d ...[text shortened]... s. how their fears handle them, rather than assuming the latter is the default setting.

Or as Mandela put more succinctly "courage is not the absence of fear, but the triumph over it".

I think we said GB is referring to irrational fear. We should all fear sunbathing by the shores of Zambezi wearing nothing but a Wildebeast costume.

as to the ZamOriginally posted by Policestate
Or as Mandela put more succinctly "courage is not the absence of fear, but the triumph over it".

I think we said GB is referring to irrational fear. We should all fear sunbathing by the shores of Zambezi wearing nothing but a Wildebeast costume.

Quote, right on point. Second sentence, please see my comment to Shav. As to the Zambezi Picnic Outing, seems a prudent fellow would

excercise a measure of careful planning and/or caution... and rent an alligator or lion costume. 🙂

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Quote, right on point. Second sentence, please see my comment to Shav. As to the Zambezi Picnic Outing, seems a prudent fellow would

excercise a measure of careful planning and/or caution... and rent an alligator or lion costume. 🙂

This could be equally dangerous. There isn't much solace in knowing that you have died as a result of a territorial dispute, as opposed to being mistaken as prey 🙂

Originally posted by Policestate
This could be equally dangerous. There isn't much solace in knowing that you have died as a result of a territorial dispute, as opposed to being mistaken as prey 🙂

So we muster the courage to say 'no'... ignoring the social pressures
and avoiding the considerable risk by simply (resolutely and manfully)
declining the nice picnic invitation with polite regrets. Does that work?

P.S. Operation Moveable Feast... we'll take our picnic to a local pub. 🙂

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Second pass in replying to your post, Nordlys:


Maybe a succinct, non-adjectival (Iron and Epic would be proud) way

of focusing on the behavior in view would be simply to say that what

matters is the distinction of who is in charge... like it or not, whether

M/F or Xym, the person is being henpecked if the emotions rule. Their

job is to appreciate, not make decisions which are the turf of the brain.


Done.

If I am in a situation which requires an immediate reaction to avoid damage, I'd much rather not be in charge than suffer the damage caused by being too slow. Fear kicks in before we are even able to consciously register what we are confronted with, much less able to make a rational decision about how to handle it, and it sets processes in motion that allow the body to react quickly. It only becomes a problem when you can't get a grip on your fear even after you have had time to evaluate the situation and maybe find out that this specific situation isn't dangerous after all.

As you like metaphors... Maybe you could compare fear to a smoke detector. If it functions well, it alerts you of danger before your conscious self is able to detect it, and it makes both your body and your mind alert and focused on the matter at hand. Then you can switch it off and deal with the situation. But it can malfunction in different ways:

- You may not be able to switch it off once it has done its job, and it will then wreck your nerves and make you focus more on the alarm than the actual danger.
- It may be too sensitive, warning you all the time when there's no real danger.
- It may react to the wrong signals, i.e. alerting you when an insect flies into it (but maybe not when the house is full of smoke).
- It may alert you in a way that is so overwhelming or painful to you that it paralyses you.

Originally posted by Nordlys
If I am in a situation which requires an immediate reaction to avoid damage, I'd much rather not be in charge than suffer the damage caused by being too slow. Fear kicks in before we are even able to consciously register what we are confronted with, much less able to make a rational decision about how to handle it, and it sets processes in motion that allow - It may alert you in a way that is so overwhelming or painful to you that it paralyses you.

Good points, Nordlys. Thanks for weighing in. Yes, timely beeps

are of much greater value than third party disciplinary bleeps.🙂


Edit: Come to think of it, the bleeps also serve a protective purpose.