The threads (both on the Site forum and here) are closed so I couldn't reply and quote - but I just have to comment, why do people have to be so difficult? The point of the new moderation rules are clear, so don't make posts that violate them! You are intelligent enough to come up with obtuse examples so just stay within the rules for god's sake (and I am an aethiest!!). OK Reverend? And all the others? You get the point, I know you do, this isn't the US Supreme Court deliberating over the 1st Amendment...