Yeah well, the whole war has been a bit dodgey, although I don't really care one way or the other - as long as the middle east region stays relatively stable and I can get petrol at a stable price.
My view is if Saddam is gone, it'll *probably* be best, the guy is a freekin maniac, but now we have to let Iraq be for now.
Just my humble opinion though.
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Democracy my a$$! In truth, I think it SHOULDN'T be an Islamic government. I see nothing but trouble coming from that. Nonetheless, if that's what the people vote for, they SHOULD get it. Personally, I don't think we should have ever been there to begin with. It wasn't about freeing the people, but that's a nice little fantasy to make us feel better. Liberators we are not. Conquerors we are, and conquerors we shall act like. The conquered only get what they are allowed. We will allow what suits our purposes, and an Islamic government does not. Even if the people live a "higher standard" of life, I can assure you that Iraq is very much LESS free than it has ever been.
i don't think you know what you are talking about when you make comments like this. An Islamic government is about the only way to stabilise the region. Without the support of the clerics this sham of a democracy will pretty much fall flat on its face. And conquerers is maybe the wrong word to describe your fascist goverment.
And what government, Black Lung, do you purport to live under? Socialist, no doubt? The U.S. government ain't perfect, but Fascist is a silly description. Can't you come up with a better one? How about a governmental system that is the envy of just about every country in the world, including yours.🙄
Originally posted by Black LungYou can have your own opinion about a government run by the church, but before you say I don't know what I'm talking about take a look at a history book. I'm having a hard time thinking of one that worked well, but I have no trouble finding ones that were exploited and used against the people.
i don't think you know what you are talking about when you make comments like this. An Islamic government is about the only way to stabilise the region. Without the support of the clerics this sham of a democracy will pretty much fall flat on its face. And conquerers is maybe the wrong word to describe your fascist goverment.
If you don't want to call us conquerors, then call us whatever you like. We are the modern incarnation of the Roman empire. Bush Ceasar may be coming for you next.
Think what you like, it's just my opinion. If you have a better idea, please let me know. 😉
Originally posted by OmnislashI think the US started acting like an empire in order to fight the Soviet Empire. Now that the Cold War's over, some Americans have decided they rather like bossing people around.
You can have your own opinion about a government run by the church, but before you say I don't know what I'm talking about take a look at a history book. I'm having a hard time thinking of one that worked well, but I have no trouble finding ones that were exploited and used against the people.
If you don't want to call us conquerors, then call us w ...[text shortened]...
Think what you like, it's just my opinion. If you have a better idea, please let me know. 😉
Originally posted by AcolyteNow that's a pretty good point...
I think the US started acting like an empire in order to fight the Soviet Empire. Now that the Cold War's over, some Americans have decided they rather like bossing people around.
The US is probably the *best* example of democracy and capitalism arround. But they keep on making themseves the target of criticism from the world community and also terrorism unfortunately.
No-one should be world cop that's why we have the UN isn't it. You can't just bypass the UN if the don't tap their feet to your song can you?
Your comments about coming to my country next Omnislash, just proves the point doesn't it. If you don't like theirr position - bomb them.
Just look at all the goverments publicly opposing he war - they weren't all socialist or governed by these (with a Southern accent) "crazy islamic militants" were they?
Just my humble (democratic) opinion.
Originally posted by CrowleyOK, let's consider. You want a cop to protect you. You find on your door step one morning a jar containing the brain of one of your children. Next to it is a plastic bag containing other organs of your kid. You wondered what happened to this child whose torture you were forced to watch. Now you know. This is but one example of the remnants of Saddam's regime that has recently been exposed.
Now that's a pretty good point...
The US is probably the *best* example of democracy and capitalism arround. But they keep on making themseves the target of criticism from the world community and also terrorism unfortunately.
No-one should be world cop that's why we have the UN isn't it. You can't just bypass the UN if the don't tap their feet to yo ...[text shortened]... thern accent) "crazy islamic militants" were they?
Just my humble (democratic) opinion.
Yea, back to this cop idea. Do you want Dominique Villawhatever or Kofe Anon or would you rather have George Bush? My humble, ignorant Southern opinion. Kirk
Originally posted by kirksey957Like I said before, the stuff Sadam and his crew did was freekin crazy. I'm not one of the people who ran around naked shouting hippy crap opposing the war.
OK, let's consider. You want a cop to protect you. You find on your door step one morning a jar containing the brain of one of your children. Next to it is a plastic bag containing other organs of your kid. You wondered what happened to this child whose torture you were forced to watch. Now you know. This is but one example of the remnants of Sadd ...[text shortened]... or Kofe Anon or would you rather have George Bush? My humble, ignorant Southern opinion. Kirk
I'm just saying there has to be clearer lines drawn. There needs to be an organization that 'polices' the world, but they've gotta be independant and objective.
This war has shown that the UN can't hack it.
What if Russia decided tomorrow that it wanted to be the USSR again, and the UN flailed around helplessly again?
Originally posted by CrowleyWell....I think that the UN still is alive....it's just that big country's like the USA go their own way despite the trouble they put the UN in...that's wrong!
Like I said before, the stuff Sadam and his crew did was freekin crazy. I'm not one of the people who ran around naked shouting hippy crap opposing the war.
I'm just saying there has to be clearer lines drawn. There needs to be an organization that 'polices' the world, but they've gotta be independant and objective.
This war has shown that the UN ca ...[text shortened]... ecided tomorrow that it wanted to be the USSR again, and the UN flailed around helplessly again?
Olav
Originally posted by AcolyteThe US government is influenced by businesses owned in great part not only by Americans but also by Britons, Canadians, Canadiens, Germans, Saudis, quite a few Frenchmen, fifteen Dutch guys, four Swedes, two South Africans and a quite nice woman from Fiji.
I think the US started acting like an empire in order to fight the Soviet Empire. Now that the Cold War's over, some Americans have decided they rather like bossing people around.
Originally posted by ArbeiterAll overnments are influenced by commerce, that's what keeps the country going, albeit local or international. In the current economy, these companies will probably be internationals.
The US government is influenced by businesses owned in great part not only by Americans but also by Britons, Canadians, Canadiens, Germans, Saudis, quite a few Frenchmen, fifteen Dutch guys, four Swedes, two South Africans and a quite nice woman from Fiji.
What's your point?
Originally posted by ArbeiterWhat do you mean?
The US government is influenced by businesses owned in great part not only by Americans but also by Britons, Canadians, Canadiens, Germans, Saudis, quite a few Frenchmen, fifteen Dutch guys, four Swedes, two South Africans and a quite nice woman from Fiji.
Olav