18 Mar 22
@divegeester saidI loved Zombieland.
Old or new ones.
Good:
- Fury
- Rogue One
- Hell of High Water
- Godfather 1 & 2
Bad:
- Independence Day, Resurgence (utterly awful from beginning to end)
- Zombieland
@torunn saidHow so?
@divegeester
A good film and/or an entertaining film - not necessarily the same thing.
Any examples?
@divegeester saidWe can distinguish several cases:
How so?
Any examples?
* Watching films only for entertainment value then we have good=entertaining
* Watching films for entertainment without injuring our moral values. Then we have the categories entertaining and morally sound: good, entertaining, but morally unsound: bad, morally sound, but not entertaining bad, neither morally sound nor entertaining: bad
* Repeat the procedure with any other aspect like "informative", emotinally touching,...
Example: I watched "If Beale street could talk". I found it to be depressing, informative, well performed.... so all in all I count it to be a good film, but I won't watch it again, due to my emotional cost.
18 Mar 22
@ponderable saidI think your interpretation and application of “good” is more akin to “worthy” which is a bit odd.
We can distinguish several cases:
* Watching films only for entertainment value then we have good=entertaining
* Watching films for entertainment without injuring our moral values. Then we have the categories entertaining and morally sound: good, entertaining, but morally unsound: bad, morally sound, but not entertaining bad, neither morally sound nor entertaining: b ...[text shortened]... .. so all in all I count it to be a good film, but I won't watch it again, due to my emotional cost.
I think most people would agree that if someone said to them “I watched a really good film last night”, the wouldn’t be referring to its “worthiness” they would be referring to its entertainment and enjoyment attributes.
18 Mar 22
@divegeester saidSchindler's List is a good film, but hardly entertaining.
How so?
Any examples?
Many people find Michael Bay films entertaining, but will admit that they're hardly good.
Bad: The "Westside Story" remake.
The original is forever a classic, but this, except for maybe two of the song & dance numbers, just fell really flat. I liked the two main actresses (especially Anita), but the lead male was lifeless and flat.
Though this closely follows the original, there's a strange lack of charm and charisma in this film. Maybe that was the problem; instead of doing what was pretty much a shot-by-shot remake, the director should've brought his own vision to the film. Given this was produced by Stephen Spielberg, that probably would've been a good choice.
@shallow-blue saidI really “enjoyed” Schindler’s List; it is a “good” film.
Schindler's List is a good film, but hardly entertaining.
Many people find Michael Bay films entertaining, but will admit that they're hardly good.
18 Mar 22
@rookie54 saidFully agree on the Tomorrow War; tried it twice.
good - the thomas crown affair
original or remake idgaf
extremely poor - the tomorrow war
do not even bother watching to figure out why it's so bad
trust me
Did you see Live Die Repeat with Tom Cruise? (I think that what it was called. )
@divegeester saidedge of tomorrow
Fully agree on the Tomorrow War; tried it twice.
Did you see Live Die Repeat with Tom Cruise? (I think that what it was called. )
i thank you for reminding me this one is in my queue