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I'm taking the plunge by starting a home music studio. I'm pumped. I play electric bass, some violin, vocals. I'm buying a Gibson SG to do guitar stuff with. My brother plays guitar and keys so I've got that covered.

Question 1): Drum machines. Any good? Any that are good for a reasonable price?

thanks in advance

signed,
d@mn drummers...

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Originally posted by eagles54
I'm taking the plunge by starting a home music studio. I'm pumped. I play electric bass, some violin, vocals. I'm buying a Gibson SG to do guitar stuff with. My brother plays guitar and keys so I've got that covered.

Question 1): Drum machines. Any good? Any that are good for a reasonable price?

thanks in advance

signed,
d@mn drummers...
I'd go with no.

If you don't actually play yourself, you're much better off learning to use a software synth for programming them. A decent drum sample collection, and an effective loop/matrix edit system will save you hours instead of trying to hit buttons in the right order. As to which, sorry, been years since I used any. I like to hit things of various odd sounds in my house and record them with a mic.

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I always found Cubase handy for drum patterns. I suppose any MIDI sequencer would do the trick. I had it linked to my keyboard on which I hammered out drum beats.

The beats I hammered on the keys were far from perfect, but the parts that were right, I could just copy and paste. If a beat was a bit short or late, you could easily adjust it with your mouse. Also, it has dynamics too, which go a long way to making a drum beat sound real, rather that it all being the same volume.

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Thanks for the advice guys. I'll look into your suggestions.

My overriding concern is to get the absolutely best drum sound I can get.

I'd have been a drummer from age 14 on except for the fact that being left-handed, I drove the local kid who was unreal on drums and teaching me how to play, nuts. Being a bassist, I'm focused on my drummers, even if they're electronic.

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Originally posted by eagles54
Thanks for the advice guys. I'll look into your suggestions.

My overriding concern is to get the absolutely best drum sound I can get.

I'd have been a drummer from age 14 on except for the fact that being left-handed, I drove the local kid who was unreal on drums and teaching me how to play, nuts. Being a bassist, I'm focused on my drummers, even if they're electronic.
Considering the overwhelming factors in obtaining the 'best drum sound' are the drummer, the recording space, the mics and the recording medium, I'm not sure what you mean by 'best drum sound'. Can you elaborate? Plenty of software is more than capable of recreating authentic drums these days.

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Cubase 5 studio has groove agent one, but i haven't worked out how to use it yet....the full version has groove agent 3, but it'll be another 200 calms for me to get it and i'm saving my clams for beer and hookers.

I asked a similar question before and the program "fruity loops" came up. but i already had cubase 4 le so i upgraded to cubase 5 studio instead...if i work out how to use groove agent, i'll telll you if it's any good 😛

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Originally posted by Starrman
I'm not sure what you mean by 'best drum sound'. Can you elaborate? Plenty of software is more than capable of recreating authentic drums these days.
By best drum sound I mean authentic drum sound, which you've indicated is possible with software these days. I'm excited that that's the case, I just have to do some exploration of what's out there.

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Originally posted by huckleberryhound
Cubase 5 studio has groove agent one, but i haven't worked out how to use it yet....the full version has groove agent 3, but it'll be another 200 calms for me to get it and i'm saving my clams for beer and hookers.

I asked a similar question before and the program "fruity loops" came up. but i already had cubase 4 le so i upgraded to cubase 5 studio instead...if i work out how to use groove agent, i'll telll you if it's any good 😛
thanks, Huck.

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Originally posted by eagles54
By best drum sound I mean authentic drum sound, which you've indicated is possible with software these days. I'm excited that that's the case, I just have to do some exploration of what's out there.
if you can, the easiest is to record your own drum samples. finding/collecting your preferred sounds from billions of sources is a huge pain in the ass.

unless you're a dance music guy, in which case you just plug in any of the billions of 808/909 softsynths, which all sound exactly as stupid as the real thing.

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Originally posted by eagles54
I'm taking the plunge by starting a home music studio. I'm pumped. I play electric bass, some violin, vocals. I'm buying a Gibson SG to do guitar stuff with. My brother plays guitar and keys so I've got that covered.

Question 1): Drum machines. Any good? Any that are good for a reasonable price?

thanks in advance

signed,
d@mn drummers...
Are you going to start making singing videos, too?

😛

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Originally posted by Sunburnt
Are you going to start making singing videos, too?

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Not likely. The lighting is too poor down in the root cellar. 😛

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Originally posted by eagles54
By best drum sound I mean authentic drum sound, which you've indicated is possible with software these days. I'm excited that that's the case, I just have to do some exploration of what's out there.
I really like the samples on Native Instruments' Battery 3 but I find the issue with trying to make the drums sound "authentic" is not in the samples but in the programming. If you are a natural or trained drummer, I would suggest investing in a small V-kit and save yourself the hassles and tedium of drum programming, especially when it comes to fine tuning midi velocity, accenting and swing.

EDIT - Or just record the drums live. 😛

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don't have a personal recommendation, but this guy writes for Linux Journal and uses Audacity, a Linux sound package. maybe he'd have some ideas.

http://www.linuxjournal.com/magazine/fresh-labs?page=0,2

John Knight is a 23-year-old, drumming- and climbing-obsessed maniac from the world's most isolated city—Perth, Western Australia. He can usually be found either buried in an Audacity screen or thrashing a kick-drum beyond recognition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audacity

Audacity is a free software, cross-platform digital audio editor and recording application. It is available for Windows, Mac OS X, Linux and BSD.

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