1. Standard memberHandyAndy
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    09 Oct '16 15:58
    Originally posted by FMF
    So there is ~ in your view ~ willful pretense on the part of the Cucumber?
    Willful pretense is beyond the capability of the average cucumber.
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    09 Oct '16 16:11
    Originally posted by HandyAndy
    Willful pretense is beyond the capability of the average cucumber.
    Both your posts so far have sought to smear cucumbers. First the accusation of masquerading. And now questioning their capabilities.
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    09 Oct '16 16:182 edits
    Interestingly enough, this exact question was significant enough in the 19th century to make it all the way to the Supreme Court here in the states.
    John Nix & Company held that the Port of New York was illegally collecting tariffs on tomatoes on account of then-collector Edward Hedden's incorrect interpretation of the Tariff Act of March 03, 1883.
    Nix maintained that, like the cucumber, botanically, the tomato is a fruit, and therefore not subject to the taxes imposed on vegetables (part of the act was intended to encourage more imports of fruit while discouraging vegetables from coming in from outside the country).
    In Nix v. Hedden 1893, the Supreme Court found that the use of the thing determined what the thing was above the definition of the thing.
    Nix lost the case because people eat a fruit weighed more than the dictionary or technical journals described the same.
    The case has been cited several times on account of the same principle, i.e., common use over technical precision.

    Very pragmatic way of looking at things.
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    09 Oct '16 17:35
    Trick of the trade, if it doesn't feature in the hat of Carmen Miranda in "The Lady in the Tutti Frutti Hat" then it isn't a fruit.
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    09 Oct '16 17:42
    Cucumber is close relative to strawberries.
  6. Standard memberHandyAndy
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    09 Oct '16 18:49
    Originally posted by FMF
    Both your posts so far have sought to smear cucumbers. First the accusation of masquerading. And now questioning their capabilities.
    Neither is a "smear" except in the mind of a horticultural paranoid.
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    09 Oct '16 19:00
    Originally posted by HandyAndy
    Neither is a "smear" except in the mind of a horticultural paranoid.
    Sir,

    Kindly desist in smearing the good name of cucumbers.

    Yours sincerely

    Professor Nutty
    From the Horticultural Society of Paranoia.
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    09 Oct '16 20:34
    Surely it should be left to the individual cucumber to decide which they would prefer to be, or rather how they perceive themselves to be. After all, every cucumber is different; some may prefer not to so superficially categorized, and many I am sure feel more 'fruity' on some days than others. These are complex issues, which cannot and should not be dictated by any person or persons who is or are not themselves a cucumber.
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    09 Oct '16 20:441 edit
    Originally posted by Indonesia Phil
    Surely it should be left to the individual cucumber to decide which they would prefer to be, or rather how they perceive themselves to be. After all, every cucumber is different; some may prefer not to so superficially categorized, and many I am sure feel more 'fruity' on some days than others. These are complex issues, which cannot and should not be dictated by any person or persons who is or are not themselves a cucumber.
    Leave it to the individual? This is a recipe for a disaster salad.
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    09 Oct '16 20:45
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    Sir,

    Kindly desist in smearing the good name of cucumbers.

    Yours sincerely

    Professor Nutty
    From the Horticultural Society of Paranoia.
    Dear Prof. Nutty,

    Judging by your erratic behavior, you seem to be pickled, as well as out of your gourd.

    Yours insincerely,

    Capt. J.E. Spaulding
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    09 Oct '16 21:14
    Where I live, the zucchini is far superior to the cucumber...its cousin. Zucchini can hide in just about any casserole, stuffing, or bread without its whereabouts being detected. It grows in great numbers and to quite large sizes. My first week as a bride, 61 years ago, I was ignorant of its existence until that first day shopping for groceries. I fancied squash for supper. Bought this elongated thing labelled "squash" at the market, placed it in the oven and honestly believed upon sampling it that I had baked a giant cucumber It was years later that I got it figured out. 😛
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    10 Oct '16 19:59
    Originally posted by Kewpie
    Doesn't matter what you call it - if you can eat it, it's food.
    Doesn't matter what you call it, it won't answer ...
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    10 Oct '16 20:05
    Strawberries are not berries and the "seeds" on the outside are not seeds.
    USA is the world's largest strawberry producer.
    My wife is the world's largest strawberry consumer.
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    11 Oct '16 21:10
    Guys, its not a fruit. Wanna know why?
    A) Have you ever seen a cucumber in a fruit salad?
    B) Can it be a starburst flavor?
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    14 Oct '16 14:37
    Originally posted by Andrew Kern
    Guys, its not a fruit. Wanna know why?
    A) Have you ever seen a cucumber in a fruit salad?
    B) Can it be a starburst flavor?
    B is a great criterion.
    But the ommission todate can't really make the cut. There is no pear flavor as yet. And I saw aromaticed water byvolvic and they do have cucumber.
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