Originally posted by Natural ScienceI feel it would only be ironic if she knew that what she was singing about wasn't irony, but just plain bad luck.
Isn't it ironic, that the only thing ironic about the Alanis Morisstette song Ironic, is that nothing she sings about in the song is actually ironic?
Alas, I reckon it's based more in stupidity than irony.
Originally posted by shavixmirthere is an irish comedian who used do have a bit of his routine about this song and how it wasn't in the least ironic at all
I feel it would only be ironic if she knew that what she was singing about wasn't irony, but just plain bad luck.
Alas, I reckon it's based more in stupidity than irony.
Originally posted by shavixmirWell, the meaning of the word "ironic" isn't just lost on the music industry. Sportscasters are guilty of misusing the word all the time, mostly to describe odd coincidences. For instance, when Roger Clemens was going for his 300th career win last year, he had a chance to do it against Boston. Sportswriters were commenting on how "ironic" it would be if he got his 300th career win against the team he started his career with.
I feel it would only be ironic if she knew that what she was singing about wasn't irony, but just plain bad luck.
Alas, I reckon it's based more in stupidity than irony.
Originally posted by Natural Scienceeeerm, I might be wrong, but might this not actually be a case of irony, that he would celebrate a great landmark by beating the very team that first game him a shot in the majors? I could very easily be wrong...
Well, the meaning of the word "ironic" isn't just lost on the music industry. Sportscasters are guilty of misusing the word all the time, mostly to describe odd coincidences. For instance, when Roger Clemens was going for his 300th career win last year, he had a chance to do it against Boston. Sportswriters were commenting on how "ironic" it would be if he got his 300th career win against the team he started his career with.
Originally posted by belgianfreakAs I said, it would just be a coincidence, and certainly not an example of irony. I found a web definiton of irony: "incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs". Here would be an example of irony: A man is urged by his doctor to quit smoking, and is warned that if he doesn't, the smoking eventually will kill him. So he tries a few different methods and then settles on a nicotine patch. However he develops an allergic reaction to the nicotine patch and dies from it.
eeerm, I might be wrong, but might this not actually be a case of irony, that he would celebrate a great landmark by beating the very team that first game him a shot in the majors? I could very easily be wrong...
So there we have an incongruity between what is expected (that the nicotine patch will help him stop smoking, thereby prolonging his life) and what actually happens (the nicotine patch is what ends up killing him). Clemens winning his 300th against the team he began his career with would not be an example of irony because it doesn't fit this criteria.
Originally posted by Natural Scienceyeah, I thought it was tenuous at best. I was going for the "you wouldn't expect him to be celebrating by beating his own team" angle. Maybe not.
As I said, it would just be a coincidence, and certainly not an example of irony. I found a web definiton of irony: "incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs". Here would be an example of irony: A man is urged by his doctor to quit smoking, and is warned that if he doesn't, the smoking eventually will kill him. So h ...[text shortened]... began his career with would not be an example of irony because it doesn't fit this criteria.