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As promised in the "Situation in Israel" thread I opened a new thread.
Feivel you're welcome to post ...

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Originally posted by ivanhoe
So,if I understand correctly I can get your respect by kneeling down for you.
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Kneeling = apologizing? What language is that in? You want my respect yet you go around and post whatever trash you want and expect me to respect you for it? You really are funny (as i originally said).


Amici Sumus

Feivel the HardcoreFreethinker

P.S.
I took the liberty of moving your post to the thread where it belongs.
I hope you don't mind. I don't want to bother other people with our silly little feud. Well, I mean my part is silly. Yours, of course, isn't. I'm sure you will agree on that.

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Originally posted by ivanhoe
[b]Originally posted by ivanhoe
So,if I understand correctly I can get your respect by kneeling down for you.
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Kneeling = apologizing? What language is that ...[text shortened]... originally said).


Amici Sumus

Feivel the HardcoreFreethinker
The language you're asking me about is body language.

I respect you as a human being, however I do not respect the way you are treating other human beings. You are speaking down to people in an unacceptable way. You are not being tolerant towards people who hold another fundamentally different position than yours.

You are claiming that Christians don't live up to their own ideals. I agree.
Now, my claim is that you are the pot calling the kettle black and you are not willing to except that reality.

The difference between you and me is that I admit to act not according to my own standards on too many occasions and maybe you can find some examples of my doing so in our little fuede.

One of the earlier subjects that was brought up in the Freethinkers discussions was "How do Freethinkers deal with personal guilt"

You are desperately trying to prove that Christians are people capable of doing bad and evil things and you are trying to prove that I'm also capable of doing evil. Don't bother, I know, I don't need evidence to support your claim. I agree with you on that.

Now how about you and your personal guilt ?
Or are you getting cold feet ?

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Originally posted by ivanhoe
The language you're asking me about is body language.
Body language from a post? Damn...your a genius. Now the ONLY thing i want to hear from you is an apology for your cut and paste posting of mine from another thread. I did not give you permission to post anything of mine under your name. I did not nor never will allow you to do such a foolish thing. If you didn't want a reply, you should not have posted in another thread. Now until you apologize, I prefer NOT to read any post of yours directed towards me. Your inane rantings have proven (to me at least) that christianity is totally lacking (as far as you are concerned).

Amici Sumus

Feivel the HardcoreFreethinker

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Originally posted by Feivel
Body language from a post? Damn...your a genius. Now the ONLY thing i want to hear from you is an apology for your cut and paste posting of mine from another thread. I did not give you permission to post anything of mine under your name. I did not nor never will allow you to do such a foolish thing. If you didn't want a reply, you should not have posted in a ...[text shortened]... tally lacking (as far as you are concerned).

Amici Sumus

Feivel the HardcoreFreethinker
He was only sowing examples of your postings today which was very much alike anti-semitism.😠

And I especially don't like that.

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Feivel and Ivanhoe are both being quite silly in both feuds. In the "freethinkers" thread, Feivel is making points that kind of jump around the really central issue, but Ivanhoe fails to argue his side as well, even though he brought it up with his question about revealed religion. In the "Israel" thread, both are behaving like certain rather vocal and political Israelis and Palestinians--maybe satire?

This thread is just patronising rubbish, and anyone with any integrity wouldn't post in it. I have no pretensions about my integrity.

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Originally posted by royalchicken
This thread is just patronising rubbish, and anyone with any integrity wouldn't post in it.
sir, i take offence at that denigration of my integrity!πŸ˜‰πŸ˜€

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You put me in an odd position, dude. 'Twould be impolite not to reply πŸ˜›.

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Originally posted by royalchicken
You put me in an odd position, dude. 'Twould be impolite not to reply πŸ˜›.
then i think we're locked into an endless round of replies and counter-replies...unless one of us cracks and decides to be impoliteπŸ˜›
of course it wouldn't really be endless, for practical reasons...

btw, have you read anything on Alfred Tarski's conception of truth? makes interesting reading...

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Originally posted by dfm65
then i think we're locked into an endless round of replies and counter-replies...unless one of us cracks and decides to be impoliteπŸ˜›
of course it wouldn't really be endless, for practical reasons...
But I have already admitted that I have no integrity, so this doesn't bother me. Thus you are faced with the disconcerting (for someone who assumedly has integrity, based on the fact that you did not want yours insulted) choice of demeaning your integrity or being impolite...πŸ˜›

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but i havent accepted that only those without integrity would post in this forum. also, i cleverly edited my last post so now it looks as if you just impolitely ignored my Tarski question, letting me off the hook...

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Originally posted by dfm65
but i havent accepted that only those without integrity would post in this forum. also, i cleverly edited my last post so now it looks as if you just impolitely ignored my Tarski question, letting me off the hook...
If the former is the case, then why were you so offended by the implied affront to your integrity? If you haven't accepted it, why did what you considered not necessarily true bother you at all? As to the last bit, I consider politeness to be in some measure correlated to integrity. I'm just going to be a complete pr@t in this thread πŸ˜›πŸ˜²πŸ˜›!

Hey, dfm65, duck! We've hijacked one of Ivanhoe's threads! Fear the deadly misapplication of the Felicific Calculus!

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Originally posted by royalchicken
If the former is the case, then why were you so offended by the implied affront to your integrity? If you haven't accepted it, why did what you considered not necessarily true bother you at all? As to the last bit, I consider politeness to be in some measure correlated to integrity. I'm just going to be a complete pr@t in this thread πŸ˜›πŸ˜²πŸ˜›!

Hey ...[text shortened]... hijacked one of Ivanhoe's threads! Fear the deadly misapplication of the Felicific Calculus!
well, of course we both understand, thanks to my clever use of emoticons, that i wasn't really offended. but i think it is possible to be offended by someone's assertion that one lacks integrity, even (or especially) if one disagrees with that someone's grounds for their assertion.

ivanhoe seems like a nice guy in my conversations with him...i'm sure the other guys are too...i can't understand this whole feud thing...

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".... ivanhoe originally asked why revealed religion is taboo for Freethinkers. Ivanhoe also refuses to listen to any logical argument (as do most christians). his answering the question (or any christian for that matter) by listing the commandments and how the church obeys them SIDE-BY-SIDE, will show ivanhoe the answer he seeks and also stop his foolish pro-christian posts (or at least quiet them down a bit0."

Amici Sumus

Feivel the HardcoreFreethinker


So, that's what it is all about. That's what you're after. You want me to stop expressing my opinions and views (or at least quiet them down a bit ).Now why do you want to do that ? Because I do so in an abusing way, or because I'm doing that in a way that is insulting to others or maybe I'm being intolerant or maybe I'm treating my opponents with contempt and disdain or maybe I'm trying to manipulate my opponent into a position in which it is impossible for him to meet my demands and then accuse him of being unwilling ?
If I would be doing this then you would be in your right Feivel to try and silence me (or at least quiet me down a bit).

You've stated in an earlier post that you're not going to read any posts of mine directed to you. I bet that you're reading this one right now.

Maybe Feivel, in this case, silence is golden for you.