Lost through translations.

The moment we try to express our soul
through definitions of language so relative,
we lose our meaning in contextual tones,
we lose ourselves through translation.


"words can only describe things of which we can form mental pictures, and this ability, is a result of daily experience."(Heisenberg, Physics and Philosophy)

"The problems of language here are really serious. We wish to speak in some way about the structure of the atoms in ordinary language." (Heisenberg, Physics and Philosophy)

This is strangely true for thoughts as well... things which have no common relation to our "daily experience"

Explaining our mental cognition
May seem like too great an ambition.
But you're mad as a hatter
If you don't start with matter
In a very complex precondition.

Words cannot be made stand still,
They get bastardised and altered, until,
They wriggle around,
Then a new meaning is found.
Bet if Chuck Norris makes them, they will!

muahaha, nice ones! 😀

Ever heard of Gödel's incompleteness theorm? It basically states that an axiomatic system is flawed by its own logic... and really, all arguments or ideas expressed through language are axiomatic as we assume the listener or reader will understand the language we are using!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del's_incompleteness_theorem

But, mathematics is not flawed in this way! this is why Heisenberg also said that we were able to describe the motion of atoms and photons using mathematics and not language! he said that matter and radiation (light) are really the same thing, but because they are not so in daily experience we cannot convey them as the same thing with language!

Mathematics comes from experience and language comes from thoughts of experience (or just thought).

Experience is supreme!

Originally posted by ChessJester
muahaha, nice ones! 😀

Ever heard of Gödel's incompleteness theorm? It basically states that an axiomatic system is flawed by its own logic... and really, all arguments or ideas expressed through language are axiomatic as we assume the listener or reader will understand the language we are using!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del's_incomplet ...[text shortened]... ce and language comes from thoughts of experience (or just thought).

Experience is supreme!