Originally posted by royalchickenuhhh? It got whacked as i watched. it was going to the thread on sports and ended up here ... only for a moment. Computers! Can't trust em'.
Your panforumic spam irritates me greatly. Please stay on topic or start a new thread for your locutions that are rapidly bcoming "drivel by repetition" @).
Originally posted by royalchickenYou mean i gotta support my own drivel? Sheesh! Well, in that case ... never mind.
A fine post sir 😀. Care to elaborate some more as you present a nice characterization?
Just kidding.😀
Just seems that nothing is obvious. Some things show up in all things. God is supposed to, but doesn't. Math does. Always has baffled me why that is. I am of the opinion that "if it walks like a camel, drinks once a week, it ain't a horse." Just what that has to do with anything is like asking why math is. It just is. If i knew why, i would prolly know how to do math of some sort. As I don't, i just accept the obvious. We use it. It works. In everything.
Originally posted by StarValleyWyOh...my post was in reply to eddie anders.
You mean i gotta support my own drivel? Sheesh! Well, in that case ... never mind.
Just kidding.😀
Just seems that nothing is obvious. Some things show up in all things. God is supposed to, but doesn't. Math does. Always has baffled me why that is. I am of the opinion that "if it walks like a camel, drinks once a week, it ain't a horse." Just ...[text shortened]... o math of some sort. As I don't, i just accept the obvious. We use it. It works. In everything.
Yes, you're right. I can even recommend another essay called "The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics", I think by Eugene Wigner.
Originally posted by royalchickenYes... i was sticking up for eddie. You notice that his post is not in this thread? it was for a microsecond then got put somewhere else.
Oh...my post was in reply to eddie anders.
Yes, you're right. I can even recommend another essay called "The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics", I think by Eugene Wigner.
As for me reading anything with "Unreasonable" and "Mathematics" in the title... ferget it! I'm already of that mind. Preaching to the choir... or quagmire or whatever!
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Originally posted by royalchickenSpot on. I was wondering how to say it, but there you go. Well done Chicken.
Mathematics is a body of ideas, a few of which are known to human minds. They are discovered and navigated through by logical inference (deduction) from a few assumptions (axioms) selected by the mathematician (navigator). The notations, conventions, and symbols are all invented by the navigator, but the ideas themselves exist as all other ideas do, w ...[text shortened]... ny mind. A mathematical statement is "true" if it follows logically from the axioms selected.
'Maths' is the logical expression of the axioms one has chosen: so long as you define your axioms properly, maths is exact.
Of course your initial axioms have to be true, for example, Pythagoras (spelling?) is only true in a 2-D plannar geometry if i recall aright, but so long as you define that in your axioms, its spot on. No argument. Absolutely true.
Well, other than a quantum one where there is no such thing as an exact number. But lets not go there in this thread. The maths just gets more difficult (ensemble envelopes instead of singluar values: who really cares in this thread?)
Originally posted by royalchickenI missed out on the "Poetry" threads... what did you think of my "Lament Of Math"...
Thank you for the vote of confidence in my expository "skills" 😀. Incidentally, extensions of Pythagoras' Theorem work in any number of dimensions. Take, for example, the point (x,y,z) in R^3. Then the distance d from (x,y,z) to (0,0,0) is given by d^2 = x^2 + y^2 + z^2.
"My shipwrecked soul, cast upon empty, bitter bones.
Alone, i pondered how I came to such a state.
Alas, no curcease found I but knowing
I alone did navigate."
That is how math makes me feel.
Originally posted by StarValleyWyI quite like that. That is the kind of feeling math is supposed to give...exploration of a strange and austerely beautiful world where traps lurk but the rewards for one's mind are great. Did you write that or am I ignorant?
I missed out on the "Poetry" threads... what did you think of my "Lament Of Math"...
"My shipwrecked soul, cast upon empty, bitter bones.
Alone, i pondered how I came to such a state.
Alas, no curcease found I but knowing
I alone did navigate."
That is how math makes me feel.