Originally posted by celticcountryLikewise, it wasn't until I'd been here almost a year that I finally subscribed. There will always be a contingent that post dross on the forums, but the same can be said for any forum, and for subscribers and non-subscribers alike.
I think leave non subscribers alone.
I would never have subscribed if I wasnt allowed my six games and time to decide I liked the site.
Originally posted by welsharnieYou use the site, people spend money on the servers, not to mention considerable time and effort to allow you to play those 6 games. Sure, from a selfish perspective there is no need for you to subscribe, however, if we all thought like that the site would not be here at all.
You see, therein lies the problem. Some us us have things that get in the way of playing 250 games at a time, maybe education, or other hobbies, or life etc...
I dont feel I could do my play justice if I played much more than 6 games at a time with the time controls I prefer. True, I could play 100 games at 21/21 time limit (i would need that long to m ...[text shortened]... s on the go at the same time. Would you subscribe if you would only play an extra 5 or so game?!
Also, there is something you'd get out of it, Tournaments. Most of them have groups of 4 which equals 6 games per round. There are banded one's which means you'd be playing people of similar strength. Trust me, it is worth it.
I'm a workin' man, I drive a common van... [No wait, that's the lyric to a country song.]
With my full-time employment, I find I never want more than three games going at the same time. My plans are to retire in the next few years, send a check to RHP, and play more like a dozen games at a time. Stock market willing, that's how it will play out. 🙂
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Originally posted by jamjamjoeI think its kind of unfair to generalize that non-subscribers are the biggest engine cheats. It could be possible, and it might not be.. either way though.. at least subscribers are not forced to play non-subscribers if they feel that way... just stay away from Open invites.. keep to tournaments and clans, and nobody would have to worry about that..
I strongly subscribe to the fact that non subscribers are the biggest chess engine cheats on RHP. A non subsciber with only 6 games going, is more inclined to cheat than a subscriber with 250 games! And the annoying part is that they keep ...[text shortened]... . Let's do away with non subscribers who exceed a rating of 1700.
now.. for those that are subscribers? there is where its more of a concern
Originally posted by jimmyb270yeah, that's cos i only tossed in 3 as an afterthought. but the rules themselves aren't really contradictory. a set number of non-rated games is what they'd get if i had my way...
Somewhat contradictory rules there. The reason you give that people might wish not to re-register under different names is that they would have to start from 1200 again. But then you say they should only be able to play non-rated games anyway!
Originally posted by dfm65The reason this is a bad idea is because people will have no way of knowing the strentgh of their opponents.
yeah, that's cos i only tossed in 3 as an afterthought. but the rules themselves aren't really contradictory. a set number of non-rated games is what they'd get if i had my way...
Originally posted by jamjamjoeHow the hell do you work this out?
I strongly subscribe to the fact that non subscribers are the biggest chess engine cheats on RHP. A non subsciber with only 6 games going, is more inclined to cheat than a subscriber with 250 games!
I would imagine it to be the other way around.
Originally posted by Starrmanit's not (wholly) a question of who posts dross and who doesn't. forum participation is a dimension of the site many users enjoy, and if they had to subscribe to participate, that would be an extra inducement to subscribe. perhaps non-subs could get a set number of posts as well as games when trialling the site. as a sub i want to feel that my hard-earned is buying me something not available for free - unlimited games is good, but unlimited postings vs limited postings would be better. and if people are induced to subscribe, it's good for the site. if they move on, nothing much lost.
Likewise, it wasn't until I'd been here almost a year that I finally subscribed. There will always be a contingent that post dross on the forums, but the same can be said for any forum, and for subscribers and non-subscribers alike.
Originally posted by Nyxiewell, it would be a non-rated game, so it wouldn't matter too much. and their win-loss-draw stats would be available, which would give some idea. high-rated players might choose to avoid nonsubs altogether, giving them even more reason to subscribe.
The reason this is a bad idea is because people will have no way of knowing the strentgh of their opponents.
Originally posted by Azeri guy1. not having a credit card doesn't matter. you can pay by money order for example.
nonsense....
There are subscribers who really want to play and feel the responsibility for their games... Let's say I can't subscribe, 'cuz I don't have a credit card or money , but I enjoy playing here and posting in the forums and do not bother anyone!
2. if you don't have the money, then tough. you can't walk into, say, a music store and say 'i want these CDs - i don't have any money, but i want them so you should give them to me for free'.
Originally posted by dfm65I don't know if you subs have this annoucement, but we do:
it's not (wholly) a question of who posts dross and who doesn't. forum participation is a dimension of the site many users enjoy, and if they had to subscribe to participate, that would be an extra inducement to subscribe. perhaps non-subs could get a set number of posts as well as games when trialling the site. as a sub i want to feel that my hard-earned is ...[text shortened]... if people are induced to subscribe, it's good for the site. if they move on, nothing much lost.
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So you might reconsider the financial importance of us, regular non-subs, to this site. We pay our smaller service with ads, you pay in cash and get more for it.
Why do you presume ads are not sufficient to pay for our (much smaller) use of the servers?
I don't see what the big deal over non-subscribers is. 😕 I used to be one, because for some reason my dads credit card wouldn't work for the site (eventually a Very kind man paid for it for me). And when I wasn't a subscriber, I made a lot more posts than I do now. Also, for some reason a lot of subscribers constantly complain about how non-subscribers spam the forums. I know plenty who don't. And I know plenty of subscribers who do. Why punish all the non-subscribers for the acts of a few?