OK, for the record here - I've got nothing against gay people. In fact, they don't even bother me - as long as they're happy, I don't care what they do. However, they are easy to use as the target of jokes. So, once again, I'm not gay, I've got nothing against gay people, and if you're all moody because I've used gays as a joke for this thread (Trevor) then I suggest you grow a pair.