Originally posted by PalynkaWell, I haven't because I don't follow the English league. I think coaches in general should be very reluctant to criticize the officiating-- not that it's forbidden, but they should only do it under pretty extreme circumstances. Otherwise it sets a bad example.
I don't agree, but I understand that him, as the coach, is sticking by his team and moving some of the heat upon him. Like you've never seen Sir Alex Ferguson do the same...
I could sympathize with a disappointed player's making comments like this in the heat of the moment, but a veteran coach who's already won a World Cup should know better. And his attempt to suggest that Portugal got screwed because it's a small country was uncalled-for. If you really think such bias is a problem, make a stink about it before the tournament starts, instead of after the fact.
Originally posted by sasquatch672You made a mistake about Carvalho's comments. Why not admit it?
"Unwise reliance..." I'll have you know, of all the unwise things I've done, that one is low on the list.
Wasn't Carvalho the one rolling around on the floor after he dragged Rooney down and Rooney put his foot, intentionally or otherwise, on top of Carvalho's athletic protector?
Originally posted by sasquatch672LOL!!! Now you're saying Carvalho acted??? AHAHAH!!! You're a hoot!!
"Unwise reliance..." I'll have you know, of all the unwise things I've done, that one is low on the list.
Wasn't Carvalho the one rolling around on the floor after he dragged Rooney down and Rooney put his foot, intentionally or otherwise, on top of Carvalho's athletic protector?
Originally posted by sasquatch672*giggles*
Well, I don't agree that the referee could have either called it or let it go. If a foul's committed in the penalty area, there's not alot of room for the referee. The only decision, really, is was there a foul committed or not. But I can tell, that you're going to post ten times "Why don't you admit you made a mistake", so for the sake of everyone r ...[text shortened]... unwise to rely on a poor translation."
You have your victory now, go ahead, gloat.
What happened to the manly notion that not all contact is a foul? Carvalho is right, the ref could have called it either way.
Originally posted by sasquatch672Well, that was a display of pouting worthy of Cristiano Ronaldo. But at least you admitted your error.
Well, I don't agree that the referee could have either called it or let it go. If a foul's committed in the penalty area, there's not alot of room for the referee. The only decision, really, is was there a foul committed or not. But I can tell, that you're going to post ten times "Why don't you admit you made a mistake", so for the sake of everyone r ...[text shortened]... unwise to rely on a poor translation."
You have your victory now, go ahead, gloat.
As far as the question of whether there's room for judgment on penalty calls goes, it certainly seems to me that an element of subjectivity is sometimes involved in deciding whether contact in the box rises to the level of a penalty or not. Maybe in theory a foul is a foul wherever it occurs, but I don't think that is true in practice.
In fact I'm quite sure that in practice refs are less likely to whistle a borderline foul inside the box than outside of it. The festival of grabbing and shirt-tugging that happens on almost every corner-kick is proof of this-- the players clearly know that the refs are less likely to call that stuff than they would outside the box. If that weren't the case, it wouldn't happen, as the chance of suffering a penalty for grabbing your man would far outweigh the benefit.