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Tell that to the old Saint Louis Browns Base Ball Club.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
Yes. I watched them both.

Individually the Portugese players were far superior to the English and the Greek players.

The play style of Portugal was far tighter and sharper than either that of Greece and England.

The Portugese team functioned far more effectivly (qua passes and alignment) than the English team. (The Greek team was reasonable in ...[text shortened]... op bothering me.
And no, he's not even as good as a pimple on Pele's old arse.

So there.
Well if you saw the game then you have no excuse.
England looked poor in many aspects v. Portugal, especially passing, but their defence was good.
Greece were solid in defence and effective at scoring when they needed to be (no fluke - look at v. Portugal, France, and Czech).
Portugal might have looked tighter and sharper but something was missing. They couldn't finish off. And they didn't dominate that much in attack.
Portugal were extremely lucky to beat England (after they were still tied after 5 penalties taken) so you are talking bollocks when you say they were thrashed. I suppose they were thrashed by the French even though they were 1-0 up after 89 mins. The result is what counts but you can't say it was a thrashing.

Your Edit just shows how ignorant you are. I'd never even heard of Rooney 2 weeks ago, I don't worship him or particularly support England at football. I just repsonded to your ill-informed nonsense. Don't be a twat all your life...

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Originally posted by Varg
Well if you saw the game then you have no excuse.
England looked poor in many aspects v. Portugal, especially passing, but their defence was good.
Greece were solid in defence and effective at scoring when they needed to be (no fluke - look at v. Portugal, France, and Czech).
Portugal might have looked tighter and sharper but something was missing. They coul ...[text shortened]... d at football. I just repsonded to your ill-informed nonsense. Don't be a twat all your life...
You, Varg, are an idiot.
Your whole post you agree with me and then come to a seperate conclusion. Fine. Just don't call me ignorant.

Don't presume to know what I do or do not watch. Agree with me or disagree with me. Do not lower your tone as if you are talking to a child and do not judge me on your own lack of humour.

You will be a twat your whole life, live with it, stop projecting it.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
You, Varg, are an idiot.
Your whole post you agree with me and then come to a seperate conclusion. Fine. Just don't call me ignorant.

Don't presume to know what I do or do not watch. Agree with me or disagree with me. Do not lower your tone as if you are talking to a child and do not judge me on your own lack of humour.

You will be a twat your whole life, live with it, stop projecting it.

I disagreed with you on two main points:
You said Greece were crap.
You said England were thrashed by Portugal.
I said you can't have seen either game if you thought that. (Or, you are just stupid).

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Originally posted by Varg
I disagreed with you on two main points:
You said Greece were crap.
You said England were thrashed by Portugal.
I said you can't have seen either game if you thought that. (Or, you are just stupid).
And I said the Greek defence was good.
And I said the English defence was good.

Maybe you need glasses or something?