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Should the islamic states get the nuke bomb ?

Should the islamic states get the nuke bomb ?

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Please understand me correctly.
This is not a I hate America and his allies Thread.

I heard about the North Korean Leaders. Now some time ago they offered to the Americans to drop the nuke bomb project if the US sign an Non-Agression Treaty. But the US refused to do so. Commentary of the guy from the German government they interviewed: Consider you are in charge for countries safety in North Korea. What would you do but to get the bomb ?

I am of the opinion that if we allow the islamic states to get the nuke bombs (Israel have so why not everybody else ? Measure with two scales ?) that the whole islamic-christ crisis would go down to a cold war for X years like the eastern block before. But after a certain period of time they whole crisis would become more relaxed until finally the relations would be as between the US/western world and the russian block nowadays.

Even the religious hardliners know that they would sign their own death warrant for sure when attacking a state with nuke bombs. They would be damn safe from any illegal invasions and therefore probably behave when Israel is not messing up this thing.

Additionally I would give the UN a massive amount of nuke bombs and let them sign an act that says: Which state uses atomic bombs risks the total annihilation of his whole country. That would them let behave for sure. Besides that no one could guarantee that any missile fired against the US reaches its target.

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How did I get in the deabtes forum?

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Originally posted by Nyxie
How did I get in the deabtes forum?
Err yes you are probably right. Sorry, my bad.

Would you still grant me to express your point of view on this topic.

Can I move the discussion ?

I am so bad. Damn !

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Originally posted by Rochade
Err yes you are probably right. Sorry, my bad.

Would you still grant me to express your point of view on this topic.

Can I move the discussion ?

I am so bad. Damn !
Sorry it's early and my mind is'nt in a debate mood.

I'm appossed to all nuke weopons, but since one country has them then that country can't rightfully say it's bad for another.

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The argument that we have them so why shouldn't they is fair enough for most things, but the atom bomb is a bit different since it is so destructive - no one should have it.
But, as it exists, as few as people as possible should have it i.e. no new states.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
The power has shited from a capitalist vs communist balance to a Christian vs Islamic balance
Does power corrupt the very bowels of the powerful?

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Originally posted by Rochade
Please understand me correctly.
This is not a I hate America and his allies Thread.

I heard about the North Korean Leaders. Now some time ago they offered to the Americans to drop the nuke bomb project if the US sign an Non-Agression Treaty. But the US refused to do so. Commentary of the guy from the German government they interviewed: Consider you are ...[text shortened]... e. Besides that no one could guarantee that any missile fired against the US reaches its target.
I feel this would be different though. Different in the sense that Jihad might be carried out. The perpetrators wouldn't give a damn what happened to themselves in this case. And what 'glory' eh? To take out the entire world and all it's evils. How many virgins would that earn someone?

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Originally posted by Rochade
Please understand me correctly. .
LOL!

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Does power corrupt the very bowels of the powerful?
I had to read that like 100 times to get what the hell you're yacking on about.

It was worth it! 😉

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Originally posted by Rochade
Please understand me correctly.
This is not a I hate America and his allies Thread.

I heard about the North Korean Leaders. Now some time ago they offered to the Americans to drop the nuke bomb project if the US sign an Non-Agression ...[text shortened]... uarantee that any missile fired against the US reaches its target.
I think Islamic nations obtaining nukes is inevitable. The end of the
cold war "liberated" hundreds of nukes now in the hands of the
Russian mafia so its only a matter of time, regardless of how many
times the nuclear facilities get bombed. They don't need to actually
reproduce the technology, just buy weapons ready made on
the undermarket.
The thing that will ultimately decide the use is not islam v christians
it is end of oil. When there is no oil left the islam states will lose
the billions in revenue and will decend into chaos. This is much
more worrisome than any religious war. Now it becomes a
struggle for survival and any crazy in power could let loose with
whatever he has not giving a crap what happens to his county,
no oil now anyway so screw it, bomb Tel Aviv and Turkey too......

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Pakistan already has the bomb. They're certainly an Islamic country. So it's a done deal already.

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Anyone can make a nuclear bomb.

It was on Blue Peter: all you you need is some discarded loo roll; some sticky
Back plastic; and an old egg container; oh and some Uranium, Plutonium
etc.

Here's one I made earlier. http://www.zvis.com/nuclear/dimg.php3?baker1,crbaker

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Just look at all the damage they do with conventional bombs, then answer that question.

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Originally posted by Checkmate187
Just look at all the damage they do with conventional bombs, then answer that question.
Yeah, almost as much damage as the Americans do.