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Originally posted by Varg
It's obvious that after 15 or 20 mins of extra time, both teams have one eye on penalties (except for the Germany-Italy semi-final).

What is wrong with golden goals?
Okay, you might still be tied if there is no golden goal, but maybe not because most teams would go for the goal.
Golden goals are the goals in overtime, right? There's nothing wrong with them except for the fact that players are too tired to put on a decent attack and instead play a boring defensive strategy to kill the time before the shootout. If more fresh players were allowed on the field, it would open up the chance for more attacking in the later parts of the game.

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Originally posted by darvlay
Golden goals are the goals in overtime, right? There's nothing wrong with them except for the fact that players are too tired to put on a decent attack and instead play a boring defensive strategy to kill the time before the shootout. If more fresh players were allowed on the field, it would open up the chance for more attacking in the later parts of the game.
No, in extra time, if one team scores they still play out the full 30 minutes.
With golden goals, the first team to score in extra time wins, end of game.

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Originally posted by Varg
No, in extra time, if one team scores they still play out the full 30 minutes.
With golden goals, the first team to score in extra time wins, end of game.
Okay. They don't do those anymore, Varg. Get with the program. 😉

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Originally posted by darvlay
Golden goals are the goals in overtime, right? There's nothing wrong with them except for the fact that players are too tired to put on a decent attack and instead play a boring defensive strategy to kill the time before the shootout. If more fresh players were allowed on the field, it would open up the chance for more attacking in the later parts of the game.
That's the problem with the over-simplistic American sports. The amount of substitutes you can constantly bring on.

When people are running a marathon, you don't want them substituted every 10 miles either, do you?

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So what was up with the Zidane head butt anyway? It didn't seem to have been enough time for the guy to have even said anything to pis the Z off, just Bang and he was out of the game.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
That's the problem with the over-simplistic American sports. The amount of substitutes you can constantly bring on.

When people are running a marathon, you don't want them substituted every 10 miles either, do you?
I really don't think that's the problem with "our" sports. Comparing a team sport to someone running a marathon is only something a drug addict would do.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
So what was up with the Zidane head butt anyway? It didn't seem to have been enough time for the guy to have even said anything to pis the Z off, just Bang and he was out of the game.
What's up with your interjection? Would you do that in a normal conversation with "real" people?

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Well I had the misfortune to actually watch some of the World Cup today as the sports bar I was watching the Yankee game at had it bracketed by two TV's showing this ridiculous "sport". Let's get this straight once and for all: soccer is as lame as frisbee tossing and probably more boring.

First, soccer fans always talk about the "action" in the hould be picked up and thrown by human beings as we evolved hands for a reason.
I was watching the Sox and Sox yesterday and a batter took a ball at 93 MPH off the upper theigh. I imagined him taking a stretcher ride to first base, getting off the stretcher at first base and doing a stupid warm up dance while taking his lead at first.

I also envisioned someone sliding into home on their knees for the win and doing that stupid airplane dance, and pulling his shirt over his face.

I'm glad those things DON'T happen.

P-

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You have to remember that most non-US sports are fluent and subtle. US sports are basically designed to fit in around ad-breaks, with constant stoppages, and are high scoring are over-burdened with statistics etc. to make them seem more interesting.

American sports lack any real narrative, because Americans don't want narrative*. They want crash, bang, whallop, followed by a few minutes rest while they haul themselves off the sofa and go and get another beer/pizza or whatever.

Americans don't seem to want or appreciate any subtlety in their sports; that why they are puzzled by something like football and have to resort to caricature (e.g. very few of this year's world cup games were decided by unfairly-won penalties).

(*With the possible exception of WWF wrestling. This is the kind of narrative that Americans can just about grasp.)

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Originally posted by darvlay
I really don't think that's the problem with "our" sports. Comparing a team sport to someone running a marathon is only something a drug addict would do.
Your point being...

Anyways, it's well known that American sports rely on heavy scoring, because otherwise the audience refocusses on their hotdogs and cokes.
Take basketball. I mean the sport was changed to make scoring easier!!! How pathetic is that?
Cheerleaders! What's that all about? I'll tell you... to liven things up... good grief!

A game of football has an element of endurance about it. That's why the substitutes are limited.

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
I was watching the Sox and Sox yesterday and a batter took a ball at 93 MPG off the upper theigh. I imagined him taking a stretcher ride to first base, getting off the stretcher at first base and doing a stupid warm up dance while taking his lead at first.

I also envisioned someone sliding into hove for the win and doing that stupid airplane slide, and pulling his shirt over his face.

I'm glad those things DON'T happen.

P-
The great thing about baseball is that there is no place for the player to pull a stunt like that which would allow a tactical advantage over your opponent.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
Your point being...

Anyways, it's well known that American sports rely on heavy scoring, because otherwise the audience refocusses on their hotdogs and cokes.
Take basketball. I mean the sport was changed to make scoring easier!!! How pathetic is that?
Cheerleaders! What's that all about? I'll tell you... to liven things up... good grief!

A game of football has an element of endurance about it. That's why the substitutes are limited.
Basketball is rubbish.

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Originally posted by darvlay
The great thing about baseball is that there is no place for the player to pull a stunt like that which would allow a tactical advantage over your opponent.
The greatest thing about baseball, in my humble opinion, is that it's not on TV over here, so I'm never forced to watch it while I'm drowning my hatreds in beer in a pub.

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Originally posted by darvlay
Basketball is rubbish.
Even you, sometimes, say wise things...

😉

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