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Alright, my question about this is does anyone know how it is allowed to happen? All I know about super-cooled water is that it can reach a minimum of 27 degrees farenheit without becoming a solid. I'm just not sure why/how it can happen. I heard about it when I saw a show about the glacier that was believed to cause the Scablands (PM if you don't already know about the theory and would like to, but I have a feeling most already do).

Thanks

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Originally posted by GalaxyShield
Alright, my question about this is does anyone know how it is allowed to happen? All I know about super-cooled water is that it can reach a minimum of 27 degrees farenheit without becoming a solid. I'm just not sure why/how it can happen. I heard about it when I saw a show about the glacier that was believed to cause the Scablands (PM if you don't already know about the theory and would like to, but I have a feeling most already do).

Thanks
It won't freeze solidly if it's under pressure.

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Everything you ever wanted to know and more!

http://polymer.bu.edu/hes/articles/ms98.pdf

EDIT: c99ux, that is one way of stopping water freezing. Another is to dissolve something in it. The final way is to have the water extremely pure, undisturbed and stored at a constant temperature within 10 or so degrees celcius of freezing. The water won't freeze as nothing is present to act as a seed however shaking it would cause it to freeze (and warm up).

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Ahh, thanks c99ux and Xanthos.

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Originally posted by GalaxyShield
Ahh, thanks c99ux and Xanthos.
Hey I just saw that same thing today. It was very interesting. What I especialy liked was how the air bubbles caused tiny explosions as the water rushed over the tip of a rock and also the small tornado type actions that caused it to cut into a rock or a piece of metal. Pretty interesting discoveries. Better not buy a house in front of an ice dam.

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Originally posted by cashthetrash
Hey I just saw that same thing today. It was very interesting. What I especialy liked was how the air bubbles caused tiny explosions as the water rushed over the tip of a rock and also the small tornado type actions that caused it to cut into a rock or a piece of metal. Pretty interesting discoveries. Better not buy a house in front of an ice dam.
Yeah, I never knew the power of bubbles until I saw that 🙂. But still, it's hard to believe they causes what 30x30 foot pot wholes in solid rock? Something like that. The variety of land formations and the dumping of giant boulders on cliffs was pretty cool, too.

Probably safer that you don't buy a house in front of any large piece of ice, just to be safe 😉.

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Absolutely one of the best geological documentaries I have ever seen. Very Believable. It just makes me wonder why we don't use some of these principles as our energy sources. I mean like there is tremendous power in the waves on the ocean. Why not use it to generate more electricity for coastal areas. Couldn't we use compressed water for a fuel? Explode those tiny molecules or something.

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Originally posted by GalaxyShield
Yeah, I never knew the power of bubbles until I saw that 🙂. But still, it's hard to believe they causes what 30x30 foot pot wholes in solid rock? Something like that. The variety of land formations and the dumping of giant boulders on cliffs was pretty cool, too.

Probably safer that you don't buy a house in front of any large piece of ice, just to be safe 😉.
Hey, if you want to know the power of bubbles, pour some cola into your nostrils...

... blow your brains out, man...

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Everything you ever wanted to know and more!

http://polymer.bu.edu/hes/articles/ms98.pdf

EDIT: c99ux, that is one way of stopping water freezing. Another is to dissolve something in it. The final way is to have the water extremely pure, undisturbed and stored at a constant temperature within 10 or so degrees celcius of freezing. The water won't freez ...[text shortened]... nothing is present to act as a seed however shaking it would cause it to freeze (and warm up).
Which is how you get ice bags you have to crack when you get an injury. Or is that something else

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Originally posted by c99ux
Hey, if you want to know the power of bubbles, pour some cola into your nostrils...

... blow your brains out, man...
I think it's worse when you burp up pure fiz from soda. Cause then you don't even have the nice cooling effect of the liquid 😉.

I have drank soda through my nose though. Wasn't very pleasent.

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Originally posted by Freddie2006
Which is how you get ice bags you have to crack when you get an injury. Or is that something else
Something else. From memory it's dissolving some salt in water which (depending on if it is the warm kind or the cold kind) releases or absorbs energy.

The supercooled water 'warms up' to 0 degrees C.

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Originally posted by Freddie2006
Which is how you get ice bags you have to crack when you get an injury. Or is that something else
I think it has something to do with the way they make that clear ice that they put in bags that you use to put in your ice chest to keep your beer cold. I saw something about it on that program where they try to prove or disprove myths. Anyway they shake the water as it freezes and it is supposed to make the ice freeze clear. Then they used the clear ice to start a fire. Sort of like starting a fire with a lens. Fire from ice. Pretty cool huh.

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Originally posted by cashthetrash
I think it has something to do with the way they make that clear ice that they put in bags that you use to put in your ice chest to keep your beer cold. I saw something about it on that program where they try to prove or disprove myths. Anyway they shake the water as it freezes and it is supposed to make the ice freeze clear. Then they used the clear ice to start a fire. Sort of like starting a fire with a lens. Fire from ice. Pretty cool huh.
I think I saw that too. They have a chest of stuff with some scientists and they have to complete certain tasks with what they have. Fun to watch what they come up with.

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This should be a super-cool thread.
but for some reason, it's just not catching my interest.

Can't we add some poo and sex in...

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Everything you ever wanted to know and more!

http://polymer.bu.edu/hes/articles/ms98.pdf

EDIT: c99ux, that is one way of stopping water freezing. Another is to dissolve something in it. The final way is to have the water extremely pure, undisturbed and stored at a constant temperature within 10 or so degrees celcius of freezing. The water won't freez ...[text shortened]... nothing is present to act as a seed however shaking it would cause it to freeze (and warm up).
So for natural flowing water such as that that makes cracks in a glacier, the only way to make it supercooled would be from pressure right? Since nobody's there to disolve something into it or shake the water. Sorry if it's a redundent question, just trying to make sure I'm clear on things in case it ever comes up in the future.