24 Jun 04
This could be an exciting game. Holland's capacity is well known, and for once Sweden has some offensive qualities too.
According to swedish media, many of the dutch players and indeed Dick Advocaat himself believe that the game will be an easy win. Of course, on a good day Holland could outclass any team, but I think they might be in for a surprise.
I can't remember that Sweden and Holland have met in an important game for ages, and I think that's to Sweden's advantage. There are a number of teams that have been overconfident and found out the hard way that Sweden is very difficult to beat. It is strange, but I think it's because Sweden usually plays a rather colorless football that fails to draw attention but is nevertheless solid.
Anyway, I've always been a fan of dutch football and I look forward to this game a lot. Sweden wins 2-1. 😉
24 Jun 04
Originally posted by Zipdrive Nightmareholland wins 2 - 0
This could be an exciting game. Holland's capacity is well known, and for once Sweden has some offensive qualities too.
According to swedish media, many of the dutch players and indeed Dick Advocaat himself believe that the game will be an easy win. Of course, on a good day Holland could outclass any team, but I think they might be in for a su ...[text shortened]... e always been a fan of dutch football and I look forward to this game a lot. Sweden wins 2-1. 😉
24 Jun 04
After the match against Germany I don't think the dutch team will underestimate any team anymore.... they have seen the Swedish matches against Bulgaria, Italy and Denmark .... they made a very solid impression in my opinion.
But the dutch are starting to believe again that they can WIN this tournament. As in almost every tournament they will get better and better.... beware that the dutch will probably play much better against Sweden then in the previous matches.
But .. it will be a thriller no matter what.
24 Jun 04
Originally posted by stokerI could live with the idea of a half final between England and Holland ... we still need a revange for the debacle of the 1996 match ...
im hoping for holland V england.. rooney and owen V van and co. though james is our weakest link, if only ann robinson would get rid of him
24 Jun 04
Originally posted by stokerCan anyone explain why Van Nistelrooy is so respected in England? I think the guy sucks. The two goals he scored yesterday were fortunate accidents: the penalty kick was given even though there was no foul and the header-goal was made in off-side position (it made me wonder if the ref is close to retirement and we offered him a bribe... Oh well, at least he compensated for the mistakes the other ref made in our game against the Czechs). The times that Van Nistelrooy *should have* scored, he aimed directly at the Lithuanian goalkeeper. It made me long back to better times, the era of Bergkamp.
im hoping for holland V england.. rooney and owen V van and co.
Fortunately, the goal by Makaay took away the reasons for the Lithuanians to complain. That was a proper goal.
24 Jun 04
Originally posted by StrayJayit has something to do with the amount of goals he was scored for united, both in europe and england.
Can anyone explain why Van Nistelrooy is so respected in England? I think the guy sucks. The two goals he scored yesterday were fortunate accidents: the penalty kick was given even though there was no foul and the header-goal was made in off-side position (it made me wonder if the ref is close to retirement and we offered him a bribe... Oh well, at least ...[text shortened]... e goal by Makaay took away the reasons for the Lithuanians to complain. That was a proper goal.
they may have been fortunate goals last night but a lesser striker may not have taken up the position to score the second. penalty well a lesser striker may have missed.
the other thing about his play is that he is extremely good at holding the ball up enabling the defensive to clear by playing the ball to him and then from there he brings the midfield into play. Or maybe just run half the length of the pitch and tuck it away (ala fulham v united).
under estimate van nistelrooy and u will pay.
and to be blunt, anybody who says he sucks
a. now sweet fa about football
or
b. has not seen him play very many games
daniel
24 Jun 04
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Originally posted by dan182well-some players don't translate very well onto the international stage.
it has something to do with the amount of goals he was scored for united, both in europe and england.
they may have been fortunate goals last night but a lesser striker may not have taken up the position to score the second. penalty well ...[text shortened]... t football
or
b. has not seen him play very many games
daniel
i bet you can all see now why we scots love larsson so much though? 😛
24 Jun 04
Originally posted by dan182I've seen him play for PSV and we do get the FA highlights here. I *still* think he sucks. He missed two or three hard to miss opportunities yesterday.
and to be blunt, anybody who says he sucks
a. now sweet fa about football
or
b. has not seen him play very many games
I remember how he once played a ball that was rolling in parallel to, and about 2 feet away, from the goal-line. All he had to do is put his foot against the ball and he would have scored. Van Nistelrooy decided to show off: he curled his right foot behind his left leg... And missed the ball.
I will never *ever* forget how much he made a fool of himself that day...
24 Jun 04
Originally posted by StrayJaya lot of players have glaring misses but it does not mean they suck.
I've seen him play for PSV and we do get the FA highlights here. I *still* think he sucks. He missed two or three hard to miss opportunities yesterday.
I remember how he once played a ball that was rolling in parallel to, and about 2 feet away, from the goal-line. All he had to do is put his foot against the ball and he would have scored. Van Nistel ...[text shortened]... nd missed the ball.
I will never *ever* forget how much he made a fool of himself that day...
over 100 goals in 3 seasons at united is an unbelievable strike rate for a player that sucks.
i do wonder how many a decent striker would have scored in 3 seasons 200+ maybe ???
daniel
24 Jun 04
Originally posted by StrayJayFriendly match between Holland and Brasil ... somewhere between 2000 and 2002 wasn't it? ... result 3-2 for Brasil.
I've seen him play for PSV and we do get the FA highlights here. I *still* think he sucks. He missed two or three hard to miss opportunities yesterday.
I remember how he once played a ball that was rolling in parallel to, and about 2 feet away, from the goal-line. All he had to do is put his foot against the ball and he would have scored. Van Nistel ...[text shortened]... nd missed the ball.
I will never *ever* forget how much he made a fool of himself that day...
24 Jun 04
Originally posted by NicolaiSWhat if it went to penalties though? Now that would be a nail-biting experience for all concerned - both teams would want to make up for the way they left their respective Euro competitions as host nations!
I could live with the idea of a half final between England and Holland ... we still need a revange for the debacle of the 1996 match ...