josephw (on another thread): I once heard a story about how Trump had a flat tire and a passerby stopped and fixed the flat. Trump tracked the man down and thanked him by pay off his mortgage.
That may or may not be a true story. It doesn't matter; it's a story that contains a moral.
Anyone care to make up little C21st folk tales (not longer nor any or more involved than the one above) that might depict a modified American Dream under a Trump presidency? [/b]
Originally posted by FMFI prefet NOT to focus on fear and hate in a thread titled "The American Dream". As an American, I'd much rather discuss the hope and realization of potential inherent in my country. If you really want to talk about fear and hate in America, perhaps you should title it "The Twisting of the American Dream".
josephw (on another thread): [b]I once heard a story about how Trump had a flat tire and a passerby stopped and fixed the flat. Trump tracked the man down and thanked him by pay off his mortgage.
That may or may not be a true story. It doesn't matter; it's a story that contains a moral.
Anyone care to make up little C21st folk tales (not longer nor any ...[text shortened]... ved than the one above) that might depict a modified American Dream under a Trump presidency? 😛[/b]
The real "American Dream" has no room for fear or hate.
29 Jul 16
Originally posted by SuzianneThen why not reflect these views of yours by making up little C21st folk tale that depicts your rebuttal of any modified American Dream that might emerge under a Trump presidency?
As an American, I'd much rather discuss the hope and realization of potential inherent in my country. If you really want to talk about fear and hate in America, perhaps you should title it "The Twisting of the American Dream". The real "American Dream" has no room for fear or hate.
Originally posted by SuzianneDo you think this little anecdote about Trump contains contains "fear and hate"?
I prefet NOT to focus on fear and hate in a thread titled "The American Dream".
I once heard a story about how Trump had a flat tire and a passerby stopped and fixed the flat. Trump tracked the man down and thanked him by pay off his mortgage
Originally posted by FMFYears ago, an elderly couple, on a trip, had to stop at a hotel late at night due to stormy weather. All rooms were booked, but the hotel clerk let the couple stay in his own personal room at that hotel. The elderly couple were impressed by the man's kindness.
josephw (on another thread): [b]I once heard a story about how Trump had a flat tire and a passerby stopped and fixed the flat. Trump tracked the man down and thanked him by pay off his mortgage.
That may or may not be a true story. It doesn't matter; it's a story that contains a moral.
Anyone care to make up little C21st folk tales (not longer nor a ...[text shortened]... d than the one above) that might depict a modified American Dream under a Trump presidency? [/b][/b]
The elderly man was William Waldorf Astor, who went on to build the Waldorf Astoria. He called on that clerk, George Boldt to be the manger of his brand new hotel.
Kindness and going the extra mile were rewarded.
29 Jul 16
Originally posted by FMFHillary for prison in 2016!
josephw (on another thread): [b]I once heard a story about how Trump had a flat tire and a passerby stopped and fixed the flat. Trump tracked the man down and thanked him by pay off his mortgage.
That may or may not be a true story. It doesn't matter; it's a story that contains a moral.
Anyone care to make up little C21st folk tales (not longer nor a ...[text shortened]... d than the one above) that might depict a modified American Dream under a Trump presidency? [/b][/b]
29 Jul 16
Originally posted by chaney3It'll be great if the American Dream modifies and expands itself to include 'kindness and going the extra mile being rewarded' under Trump (personally, I'd prefer 'kindness and going the extra mile even without being rewarded'😉 although, in my experience, things like kindness and going the extra mile are things that I have encountered in every country I've ever lived in or been to, and surely cannot be tied to any particular country's "Dream".
Kindness and going the extra mile were rewarded.
The OP had this wiki definition in mind: The American Dream is a national ethos of the United States, the set of ideals (Democracy, Rights, Liberty, Opportunity, and Equality) in which freedom includes the opportunity for prosperity and success, and an upward social mobility for the family and children, achieved through hard work in a society with few barriers.
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Originally posted by FMFThere are two competing American Dreams. They are based on competing concepts of the family, which is the arch-typical government. They are not exclusive to American culture.
It'll be great if the American Dream modifies and expands itself to include 'kindness and going the extra mile being rewarded' under Trump (personally, I'd prefer 'kindness and going the extra mile even without being rewarded'😉 although, in my experience, things like kindness and going the extra mile are things that I have encountered in every country I've ever ...[text shortened]... lity for the family and children, achieved through hard work in a society with few barriers.[/i]
The concepts are "The Nurturant Parent family (progressive) and the Strict Father family (conservative)."
This is explained at least in terms of Trump, at
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/george-lakoff/understanding-trump_b_11144938.html
30 Jul 16
Originally posted by FMFDang! Did I misspell paying?
josephw (on another thread): [b]I once heard a story about how Trump had a flat tire and a passerby stopped and fixed the flat. Trump tracked the man down and thanked him by pay off his mortgage.
That may or may not be a true story. It doesn't matter; it's a story that contains a moral.
Anyone care to make up little C21st folk tales (not longer nor a ...[text shortened]... d than the one above) that might depict a modified American Dream under a Trump presidency? [/b][/b]
Perhaps I misunderstand the intent of the OP, but the American dream is, in my opinion, about freedom from tyranny first. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Under law. Equality. It's a dream. I've been living all my life. God bless America.
30 Jul 16
Originally posted by FMFIt's not a "little folk tale", however badly you anti-American nationalists want to make it so.
Then why not reflect these views of yours by making up little C21st folk tale that depicts your rebuttal of any modified American Dream that might emerge under a Trump presidency?
30 Jul 16
Originally posted by FMFAnd this is exactly why the American dream has no room for Donald Trump and his vision of fear and division for America.
The OP had this wiki definition in mind: The American Dream is a national ethos of the United States, the set of ideals (Democracy, Rights, Liberty, Opportunity, and Equality) in which freedom includes the opportunity for prosperity and success, and an upward social mobility for the family and children, achieved through hard work in a society with few barriers.
30 Jul 16
Originally posted by josephwYeah, it's been working fine, if you're white, male, or rich. If you're not one of these, not so much. And not much for anybody under a Donald Trump presidency. We already have work to do, let's not add to the load.
Dang! Did I misspell paying?
Perhaps I misunderstand the intent of the OP, but the American dream is, in my opinion, about freedom from tyranny first. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Under law. Equality. It's a dream. I've been living all my life. God bless America.