"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
Voltaire, (Attributed); originated in "The Friends of Voltaire", 1906, by S. G. Tallentyre (Evelyn Beatrice Hall)
French author, humanist, rationalist, & satirist (1694 - 1778)
Can you honestly say that you value and protect freedom? That you'd protect another's hard fought right to freedom of speech?
You may not like me. You may think I'm a wortheless human being. That's your prerogative. Despite this, are you willing to protect my freedom of speech as I am yours?
I find it eminently fitting that someone like Red Night has a communist themed avatar. The man wants you to function in a box. He'll go to great lengths to keep you in that box and make it smaller at every opportunity. Every time you shift or give an inch he'll push the walls in closer on you.
Are you content to let this happen? Are you content to let small minded thugs, for petty reasons of their own seal you into a metaphorical box? Is less freedom better than more freedom?
Don't stand by and let what has made this site a wonderfully diverse and great community be trampled under the boot heels of the likes of Red Night. Speak up! Make your voice heard! This is unacceptable. We've been pushed far enough and the pushing stops here.
Originally posted by Hand of HecateLove the quote, Hand. Freedom carries with it responsibility. Without authority there's anarchy and issues become subordinate to personality attack.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
Voltaire, (Attributed); originated in "The Friends of Voltaire", 1906, by S. G. Tallentyre (Evelyn Beatrice Hall)
French author, humanist, rationalist, & satirist (1694 - 1778)
Can you honestly say that you value and protect freedom? That you'd protect another ...[text shortened]... rd! This is unacceptable. We've been pushed far enough and the pushing stops here.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyIf you liked that quote, I have another for you. I've always been fond of Yeats and consider him to be one of the only writers we could not do without.
Love the quote, Hand. Freedom carries with it responsibility. Without authority there's anarchy and issues become subordinate to personality attack.
He seems to echo your concerns with regards to anarchy: “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity”
Still, Yeats played with verse and prose, explored different styles and unltimately all but abandoned convential methodology. Yeats defied conventional themes and struture. Isn't this self governed anarchy of literature?
I'm not advocating anarchy as it won't work. There is authority and there are consequences. There's no reason these should not continue to be in place. I am saying that too little freedom is smothering and an equally poor choice. A balance must be found and mainitained.
Originally posted by Hand of HecateYeats, in my view, was one of a very few who escalated his craft and (as described by T.S.Eliot) "moved on to new intensities". He forked lightning.
If you liked that quote, I have another for you. I've always been fond of Yeats and consider him to be one of the only writers we could not do without.
He seems to echo your concerns with regards to anarchy: “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremo freedom is smothering and an equally poor choice. A balance must be found and mainitained.
Originally posted by Hand of HecateWhat this site needs is not to have wormtongue weaving his cold clammy fingers around its sleeping populace.
If you liked that quote, I have another for you. I've always been fond of Yeats and consider him to be one of the only writers we could not do without.
He seems to echo your concerns with regards to anarchy: “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremo ...[text shortened]... freedom is smothering and an equally poor choice. A balance must be found and mainitained.
We already have a governing document and an authoritarian group with powers in the ToS and the mods. What we now need is for Russ to grow a spine and for the populace to wake from their insipidly sung dreams. People should make their own mind up on how to act here, if thy step out of the bounds of the system the mods will do their job. What none of us should be doing is listening to wormtongue and his band of sycophantic gremlins.
Originally posted by Hand of HecateWell said, I completely agree.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Voltaire.
Can you honestly say that you value and protect freedom? That you'd protect another's hard fought right to freedom of speech?
Respecting and defending freedom of speech is the last true stronghold of a liberated society.
Originally posted by Hand of HecateBy anarchy you certainly don't mean the political/philosophical/ideological meaning.
I'm not advocating anarchy as it won't work. There is authority and there are consequences.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_in_Spain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_and_present_anarchist_communities
Originally posted by Frank BurnsThat may be so and I'm glad you have the freedom to make such an observation.
Right on brother! Well said. The only part you left out is the fact that HOH is a prick...
Red Night's twisted communist vision has him crafting a utopia modeled after himself. Intolerant of other points of view. Is this what you want Frank? You're as outspoken as anyone else here. Do you not value being able to speak your mind with a reasonable degree of freedom?