Originally posted by maggoteerThe difference between soul and consciousness? Let me try in 100 words or less. When I think of soul I don't necessarily think of something that survives our earthly body, but rather the depth of our consciousness. Let me draw an example from the site because I just have an easier time explaining something of history. Remember when Dave was "missing" and there was a great deal of concern about his well-being? To me he was conscious and aware of the events that happened. His ability or willingness to look at the depths of who he is beyond mere behavior is the stuff of "soul." Christians tend to look more at "spirit" than soul. To me they are different. Spirit has to do with ascending (spiral, spiritus), while soul work, at least psychologically, is depth work, and sometimes is not experienced as feeling good unlike the emotionalism of some religious experiences, which in my opinion are terrified of a "soulful" religious/emotional/spiritual journey.
interesting kirk. Well my glib answer is that I see sin fitting in quite nicely right next to me in the passenger seat, telling me how little sin 20 bucks gets you in todays market ...
But more to your point; since I've never been able to nail down what my soul is, or how it differs from my consciousness (well, pretending for the moment that I have a c ...[text shortened]... ..
so, as our spiritual leader, what is the difference between my soul and my concsiousness?
OK< a humorous side note about what $20 will get you. I remember one morning looking at the Today Show and Bryant Gumbel was commenting on Willard Scott's tupay. Bryant asked him how much a good piece cost him. Scott: "Well, it depends on what side of town you get it from." I love live TV. 😉 KIrk
Originally posted by castlewall_______________Originally posted by misslead
i pride myself on it😀
Thanks for your support.
Don't get me wrong.I think he is a very silly person.
That publicity thing.You are right.People like me and you are not made judges.
I still believe we can judge only behaviour.
I will never judge another person.
_______________Linda
Originally posted by castlewall
first of all i was being sarcastic! ((((big huge DUH!!!)))) second i don't think he is even human
Castlewall, All I was trying to say was that you missed Linda's sarcasm in response to yours, nothing else, just that you didn't need the "big huge DUH" in your post...
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Originally posted by AcolyteHi Acolyte, not sure I agree with you on the consciousness point there. I think the idea of a unitary consciousness is prefectly acceptable, given that we can only contain a small number of elements within our consciousness at any one time. Your point about the difference between written and verbal communication doesn't seem to hold any water. While it is true that slightly different parts of the brain are involved in speaking and writing, what those different parts of the brain are doing are not relevant to the content of those communications. All that is different is the mechanism by which the language comes out. In one case the motor strip for the tongue and mouth is engaged, and in another, the part of motor cortex that deals with fine hand movements and the cerebellum are involved. That doesn't seem to me like two qualitatively different thought processes going, just two qualitatively different methods of expressing those thoughts. The language impulses are still sent from the language areas, just to different parts of the brain for output...
I feel like making some stultifyingly ill-informed comments at this point:
The concept of consciousness strikes me as an extreme simplification. The various parts of the brain interact to varying extents at different times. If I ask yo ...[text shortened]... nking, it appears you were only thinking of one thing at a time.
And remember, thought is not determined by language alone, it is perfectly possible to have thoughts that are entirely visual in nature, but which still can be described verbally. Say someone tells you something that conjures up an all-too-real visual image of some event, (Matthew Kelly with his arm round a new 'contestant' would do it for me). You're consciousness of that image is purely visual, yet you can say "ugh, that's disgusting" and then describe in detail what you see in your mind's eye. That is necessarily what's going on in your language centres. What goes on in your language centres is a narrative that goes with consciousness, not consciousness itself. It is true that we experience consciousness as a unitary thing, but that really the world isn't like that. Imagine if consciousness wasn't unitary - we would have all sorts of trouble making sense of incoming information (in fact schizophrenia is exactly this, a splitting of consciousness into pieces, so that we can't bind information together properly).
It may seem in memory that you were only thinking one thing at a time, because really, you were only thinking of one thing at a time. I agree that many thought processes can be happening at once, but at any one time only one of these thought processes can be conscious. When you say there are many consciousnesses, some stronger than others, what you really mean is that there are many thoughts, some stronger than others... but only one of these thoughts can actually enter conscious experience at any one particular time.
Ok, sorry about the length of this post, I hope you see the logic behind this, and I'm happy to discuss more on this topic (as it quite obviously fascinates me!)
Joe
easy there joe, obviously been letting your cerebral synapses get carried away with you, told you the NE would do that to you, trapped in the wilderness with just the mirror to keep you company - must be like that hotel in The Shining or something.
Amyway hope you are well, better get back to my current project.... No I cant tell you but you might see it in the news soon,
See you back in Brum some time