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  1. SubscriberVery Rusty
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    12 Apr '19 18:15
    @chessturd said
    Actually you are wrong.
    Before the 1990's your music career was based on talent. Plenty of ugly singers back then.
    Now you have to be attractive to get famous. Talent comes second.
    Maybe not even second 🤔
    Really?

    What singers did you think were ugly?

    -VR
  2. Standard memberchessturd
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    @very-rusty said
    Really?

    What singers did you think were ugly?

    -VR
    Barbara Streisand
    Bette Midler
    K.D. Lang
    Etc etc
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    @chessturd said
    Barbara Streisand
    Bette Midler
    K.D. Lang
    Etc etc
    They had personality and great talent.
  4. Standard memberchessturd
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    The dudes were even worse!
  5. Standard memberchessturd
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    @torunn said
    They had personality and great talent.
    Yes back when that's all it took.
    Now music companies go by the girls looks. Talent comes second.
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    @chessturd said
    Yes back when that's all it took.
    Now music companies go by the girls looks. Talent comes second.
    Things change and we too - humour especially.
  7. SubscriberGhost of a Duke
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    @chessturd said
    Yes back when that's all it took.
    Now music companies go by the girls looks. Talent comes second.
    That's to appeal to the many Rustys out there.
  8. Standard memberdrewnogal
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    12 Apr '19 19:30
    @vivify said
    [youtube Maria Carey]2sap-GTtCiU[/youtube]

    What do you think of this new pop song from Mariah? I love it. She also due to receive an icon award from Billboard.

    And yeah: I know there's a Culture forum but that gets 3 and half posts a year.
    I couldn’t be bothered to listen more than 30 secs sorry.
  9. Standard membervivify
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    12 Apr '19 19:361 edit
    @torunn said
    It is the simplified form of music I don't understand - it doesn't go any further than my ears, I don't get the musical message.
    Mariah started out her career at the end of the 80's singing ballads over pretty melodies. That stopped being in fashion by around the mid-nineties, where people preferred simpler, catchier songs over sweeping, orchestral songs.

    Even in hip-hop, something despised by older folk, there has been at least a decades-long lament regarding the over-simplified lyrics and song structures. Nas, considered one of the top 4 or 5 rappers of all time, released a song titled "Hip Hop is Dead". And this was around 2008. This was to no avail, since the derisively-titled genre of "Mumble Rap" has now become popular, characterized by rappers singing lazily delivered nonsensical music.

    Further more, Rock & Roll is completely dead. It has no presence in mainstream music. A shocking thought given how utterly dominant the genre was for most of the 20th century.

    I guess young people, for whatever reason, just like simple tunes, and it's killing music. But I do like the song in the OP due to that infectious beat and Maria's delivery. Near the end, she does her famous "whistle register" to cap it all off.
  10. SubscriberVery Rusty
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    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    That's to appeal to the many Rustys out there.
    I never mentioned anything one way or the other about her singing just that she was HOT looking. For all you know, I may enjoy her singing also! I'll keep that to myself, if that is OK with you....if it isn't too bad!!! 😛

    You are taking what I said out of context!

    -VR
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    @drewnogal said
    I couldn’t be bothered to listen more than 30 secs sorry.
    Same here
  12. SubscriberVery Rusty
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    @chessturd said
    Barbara Streisand
    Bette Midler
    K.D. Lang
    Etc etc
    All great singers, I wouldn't say any of them could be called ugly. I guess like everything else it is all in the eyes of the beholder. 😉

    -VR
  13. Standard memberHandyAndy
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    @vivify said
    Mariah started out her career at the end of the 80's singing ballads over pretty melodies. That stopped being in fashion by around the mid-nineties, where people preferred simpler, catchier songs over sweeping, orchestral songs.

    Even in hip-hop, something despised by older folk, there has been at least a decades-long lament regarding the over-simplified lyrics and song s ...[text shortened]... beat and Maria's delivery. Near the end, she does her famous "whistle register" to cap it all off.
    You're right.. lyrics ain't what they used to be.

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    Answers the hands a.k.a I cut you off
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    Hit me with "I'm sorry" but I'm sorry, no
    Na na na na na na na na na na
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    You shoulda' known that it's bigger than you
    You'll never know what I already knew
    After everything I already been through
    I can't waste no time, pay no atention to you
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    You came so close
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    Irregardless of what transpired
    It ain't even worthy of a slick reply
    Even if I was the last woman alive
    I would…
  14. Standard memberHandyAndy
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    13 Apr '19 01:23
    Here she is before hip hop:

    YouTube
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    @handyandy said
    You're right.. lyrics ain't what they used to be.

    I ain't even mad, no not like before
    Off with your head, now slither out the door
    Snakes in the grass it's time to cut the lawn
    Answers the hands a.k.a I cut you off
    No
    You ain't gonna lie to my face no more
    Hit me with "I'm sorry" but I'm sorry, no
    Na na na na na na na na na na
    No
    Get me Ed Shapiro on the pho ...[text shortened]... transpired
    It ain't even worthy of a slick reply
    Even if I was the last woman alive
    I would…
    Compared to the genius that was David Bowie
    Ha ha ha, hee hee hee
    "I'm a laughing gnome and you don't catch me"
    Ha ha ha, hee hee hee
    "I'm a laughing gnome and you can't catch me"
    Said the laughing gnome
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