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@trev33 said
@divegeester
You won't be around in a couple of decades to see how wrong you are 😉

United States of Europe that's what we need. Stronger together...

The ROI needs all the help it can get, and you will possibly get it, just not with the UK involved.

🙂

@wolfgang59 said
If divegeester will permit it!

😇

@very-rusty said
What is there to debate?

-VR

The question what counts towards and what counts against having a new vote about Brexit for example
The question if the Brexit was handled correctly by the ruling administration.
The question if the vote should ahve had to be redone after discovering irregularities

and so on and so on and so on

@Ponderable

You may have missed this post on page 1.

Seems like this has been going on forever.

Perhaps it is a Debate after all and left to the UK people to discuss.

Dive's post also on page one, gave me a much better idea of how complex this situation really is, I was wrong in saying it was a simple yes or no, not so simple after all it appears.

-VR

@very-rusty said
@Ponderable

You may have missed this post on page 1.

Seems like this has been going on forever.

Perhaps it is a Debate after all and left to the UK people to discuss.

Dive's post also on page one, gave me a much better idea of how complex this situation really is, I was wrong in saying it was a simple yes or no, not so simple after all it appears.

-VR

it is a simple out by any measures needed, the public voted out that's democracy,to force another vote is taking the piss.

@badradger said
it is a simple out by any measures needed, the public voted out that's democracy,to force another vote is taking the piss.

Big corporate enterprises, european and British power brokers, hosts of wealthy individuals and a ideological drive to press towards a federal states of Europe are some of the forces behind the attempts at crushing of the people’s votes in the UK and other EU nation states.

I am endlesly struck by how elements of the left over here will attack the “fat-cat” commercial culture one day, and back their insidious self-interest the next.

Political Independence for all nations and power to the people!

@divegeester said

Political Independence for all nations and power to the people!

Independence for Wessex?
Cornwall?
Isle of Wight?

Where does it end dive?

Tooting Popular Front?

@wolfgang59 said
Independence for Wessex?
Cornwall?
Isle of Wight?

Where does it end dive?

Tooting Popular Front?

if the eu was democratic with elected leaders I might feel different but it is alas a dictatorship on top of that the euro is a basket case.

@divegeester said
Big corporate enterprises, european and British power brokers, hosts of wealthy individuals and a ideological drive to press towards a federal states of Europe are some of the forces behind the attempts at crushing of the people’s votes in the UK and other EU nation states.

I am endlesly struck by how elements of the left over here will attack the “fat-cat” commercial ...[text shortened]... nsidious self-interest the next.

Political Independence for all nations and power to the people!

Quite right sir.

@wolfgang59 said
Independence for Wessex?
Cornwall?
Isle of Wight?

Where does it end dive?

Tooting Popular Front?

Haha I do sound a little like Wolfie Smith.

As I said Wolfgang59, is starts and ends with “Nations”. You are just being silly.

@wolfgang59 said
Independence for Wessex?
Cornwall?
Isle of Wight?

Where does it end dive?

Tooting Popular Front?

Furthermore independence is relative to the scale you are referencing; if you want to talk about local councils and parishes and their local duly elected councillors then let’s do that...?

@divegeester said
Furthermore independence is relative to the scale you are referencing; if you want to talk about local councils and parishes and their local duly elected councillors then let’s do that...?

probably the only thing we agree on Brexit means Brexit....sadly we are going to get some white washed pile of pseudo pre agreed fixed drivel.