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    04 Mar '18 00:561 edit
    Virtue signalling is the conspicuous expression of moral values done primarily with the intent of enhancing standing within a social group.


    No posts on this thread, please, that do NOT engage in virtue signalling; some of us know full well that community values are built from contributions that conform to group norms and purposes.
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    Good luck with this. It's an admirable try.
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    It is good for personkind
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    04 Mar '18 21:45
    People who accuse others of "virtue signalling" are trying to stigmatise ...
    https://www.newstatesman.com/.../people-who-accuse-others-virtue-signalling-are-tryi...

    Feb 15, 2017 - The phrase “virtue signalling” is a slur and it is everywhere; it is part of the Trumpian scream. Empathy, fellowship, society, love? To the critic of the “virtue signaller”, they are all vanity, whether online, at a protest or at the ballot box. This is psychological projection, but still interesting: where did it come from?
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    04 Mar '18 22:32
    Originally posted by @fmf
    Virtue signalling is the conspicuous expression of moral values done primarily with the intent of enhancing standing within a social group.


    No posts on this thread, please, that do NOT engage in virtue signalling; some of us know full well that community values are built from contributions that conform to group norms and purposes.
    So is this like taking the moral high - ground? Like people who stand pointlessly outside courtrooms and scream pointless abuse at serial - killers and the like, just so that people know that they are against serial - killers?
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    05 Mar '18 04:56
    Originally posted by @fmf
    Virtue signalling is the conspicuous expression of moral values done primarily with the intent of enhancing standing within a social group.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08gy87z

    "There was a time when publicly standing up to protest at injustices, especially if they didn't affect you personally, was the sign of an upright citizen - the very definition of altruism - a "disinterested and selfless concern for the well-being of others." Now such expressions of moral outrage are as likely to be dismissed as "virtue signalling" as they are to be applauded. It's a neat and pithy phrase and like all the best neologism seems to capture and distil something in our cultural discourse. It's only been in use for a couple of years. You know the sort of thing - ice bucket challenges, male actors and politicians wearing t-shirts with the slogan "this is what a feminist looks like". Virtue signalling - the practice of publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate our good character or the moral correctness of our beliefs - was only coined a couple of years ago, and has caught on like wildfire. Perhaps because the only thing people seem to like more than virtue signalling is judging other people. To some the phrase deftly skewers an age where politics is driven by narcissism and the echo chamber of social media where being moralistic is more important than being moral? But has what started off as a clever way to win arguments become a lazy put-down or mental shortcut to dogmatism? Does accusing others of virtue signalling encourage you not to interrogate your own beliefs? Even if we can't change something we know to be wrong, big collective moral shifts in society have to start somewhere, so is dismissing them as empty gestures a cynical counsel of despair? There was a time when virtue was its won reward. Is that still the case? The morality of virtue signalling." [BBC]
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    Because there are people everywhere who just want to take the best aspects of our society and turn them into bumper-sticker ripcord punchlines, shouting down honesty and altruism with cynical diatribes about how they must be "putting one over on us", all because they don't want to be seen as somehow, maybe, "not as good" as someone who is actually driven by those morals that they spend all their time giving "lip service" to.

    Whatever happened to people actually being moral and treating others with dignity, simply because it is the right thing to do, and never mind the naysayers, instead of becoming one of those naysayers and assuming that anyone speaking out about injustice is somehow looking to have their own 15 minutes of fame. Altruism does exist, as long as it isn't trampled by those who wish to shout it down with false accusations of using it to "appear" better than others. Support those doing good in the world without soiling them with your own sour grapes of your own desire to be recognized.
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    05 Mar '18 05:46
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Because there are people everywhere who just want to take the best aspects of our society and turn them into bumper-sticker ripcord punchlines, shouting down honesty and altruism with cynical diatribes about how they must be "putting one over on us", all because they don't want to be seen as somehow, maybe, "not as good" as someone who is actually driven b ...[text shortened]... in the world without soiling them with your own sour grapes of your own desire to be recognized.
    You go, girl!
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    05 Mar '18 12:181 edit
    Originally posted by @indonesia-phil
    So is this like taking the moral high - ground? Like people who stand pointlessly outside courtrooms and scream pointless abuse at serial - killers and the like, just so that people know that they are against serial - killers?
    Virtue Signalling: Sounds like ripe shelter for hypocrites whom hope to go undetected...by pointing.

    Welcome to "Club Groupthink"...where up is down and sideways is up and a reach around is out of the question.
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    05 Mar '18 23:41
    Originally posted by @fmf
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08gy87z
    The man who coined the term is one of the 'witnesses' on Moral Maze.
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