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Originally posted by Palynka
No. The theorem states that no voting system is fair in the above sense. Have you read about Condorcet's voting paradox? It's a good illustration of one of the problems with voting systems, although AIT is more general.
I see your point, but I guess my first question had more to do with original intent of whatever method of voting system applied. As long as the results are consistent with the the intention of those employing the method in the first place, I would think such a system is fair--- even if it doesn't necessarily appear balanced.

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
I see your point, but I guess my first question had more to do with original intent of whatever method of voting system applied. As long as the results are consistent with the the intention of those employing the method in the first place, I would think such a system is fair--- even if it doesn't necessarily appear balanced.
Of course "fair" is a moral concept and so as a non-cognitivist I can only really accept that criticism.

Still... I think that the intent of a voting system is to find a way to aggregate political preferences. The theorem simply states that this has important flaws which would probably contrast with typical notions of fairness that people assign to voting systems.

Arguing that people actually want to have a voting system that is equivalent to a dictatorship or that they want it to depend on irrelevant alternative hypotheses seems pedantic.

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People in the U.S. vote in a President, then spend the next 4-8 years complaining about that president, while voting him in to a second term after 4yrs...Go Figure~!

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Originally posted by Very Rusty
People in the U.S. vote in a President, then spend the next 4-8 years complaining about that president, while voting him in to a second term after 4yrs...Go Figure~!
USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

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Originally posted by expuddlepirate
This vote, should it pass, will effect the lives of the men, women of the greater RHP comunity; young and old alike. This day will be marked in th annals of this fine site's history as never before and we can say we were there when it happened, firsthand wittnesses to the event.





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wrong. when I read your post a little green monster leapt from the screen of my laptop and force-fed me a live penguin. 😞

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Originally posted by Ice Cold
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Are you English?

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Originally posted by Very Rusty
People in the U.S. vote in a President, then spend the next 4-8 years complaining about that president, while voting him in to a second term after 4yrs...Go Figure~!
not necessarily. the problem is that we haven't had a president that was worth a damn since reagan (who was, in fact, one of the greatest we've ever had).

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Originally posted by Very Rusty
Are you English?
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Originally posted by expuddlepirate
This vote, should it pass, will effect the lives of the men, women of the greater RHP comunity; young and old alike. This day will be marked in th annals of this fine site's history as never before and we can say we were there when it happened, firsthand wittnesses to the event.





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Your post said not one word on the subject of the vote. I read through it 4 times and found it to be nothing but empty words, addressing not one single shred of subject matter.

As for me and my vote, it is a strong solid NO !

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Originally posted by Big Orange Country
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You'd better hope not. 🙁

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Originally posted by Very Rusty
Are you English?
That was below the belt pal. 😞

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Originally posted by Big Orange Country
not necessarily. the problem is that we haven't had a president that was worth a damn since reagan (who was, in fact, one of the greatest we've ever had).
Actually being a youngster, you wouldn't remember John F. Kennedy. He would be the best President you have had in the last Century!

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Originally posted by Ice Cold
That was below the belt pal. 😞
You can be a U.S. Patriot and still English.

The English are a great lot, wasn't for a couple of them, we wouldn't even know each other. 😉

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I concur so as of this moment it's 2 nays and no yays.



Going once....going twice......done, no vote.