Originally posted by MoneyManMikeother interesting facts
List of All-Stars Lebron has played with:
Carlos Boozer
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Ben Wallace
Mo Williams
Shaq
Antawn Jamison
Other interesting facts:
Lebron led Team USA = Bronze Medal
Kobe led Team USA = Gold Medal
Titles by age 25:
Kobe - 3
Lebron - 0
Players named to all star game when playing with Lebron: Williams (2009) and Ilgauskas (2005).
2008 USA team leading scorer: Lebron James
NBA Titles led by Kobe: 2 (at age 30 and 31)
Originally posted by monteirofNBA Titles as team's primary closer:
other interesting facts
Players named to all star game when playing with Lebron: Williams (2009) and Ilgauskas (2005).
2008 USA team leading scorer: Lebron James
NBA Titles led by Kobe: 2 (at age 30 and 31)
Kobe - 5
Lebron - 0
"Players named to all star game when playing with Lebron: Williams (2009) and Ilgauskas (2005)."
Doesn't this go against your earlier statement that Lebron has never been surrounded by all star players?
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Originally posted by MoneyManMikeNot really, do you the meaning of surrounded?
NBA Titles as team's primary closer:
Kobe - 5
Lebron - 0
"Players named to all star game when playing with Lebron: Williams (2009) and Ilgauskas (2005)."
Doesn't this go against your earlier statement that Lebron has never been surrounded by all star players?
MVPs titles till age 25:
Lebron - 2
Kobe - 0
What I was pointing out is about Lakers roster being much better than Cavs' one, if you take out Kobe and Lebron. But, honestly, if you read carefully my posts you'll realize it was not about Lebron x Kobe nauseating debate.
Originally posted by monteirofFinals MVPs (the award that really matters):
Not really, do you the meaning of surrounded?
MVPs titles till age 25:
Lebron - 2
Kobe - 0
What I was pointing out is about Lakers roster being much better than Cavs' one, if you take out Kobe and Lebron. But, honestly, if you read carefully my posts you'll realize it was not about Lebron x Kobe nauseating debate.
Kobe - 2
Lebron - 0
Team USA roles:
Defensive Stopper - Kobe
Closer - Kobe, Dwayne
Cherry Picker - Lebron
Umm...and Kobe isn't surrounded by All-Stars either.
Three-peat All-Stars:
Shaq
Three-peat Former All-Stars:
Glen Rice
Two-peat All-Stars:
Pau Gasol
Two-peat Former All-Stars:
Ron Artest
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Originally posted by MoneyManMikeSure, he's surrounded by a bunch of morons who can't paly basket uh?
Umm...and Kobe isn't surrounded by All-Stars either.
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Indeed he needed Gasol to win two titles, and let's not speak about the ones he won with the best Shaq ever........
Come on, you're getting silly, are you REALLY comparing Ilgauskas, West and Mo Williams to the ones above ...[text shortened]... he wrong just because he wanted to switch team in order to get more chances to wwin something?
Originally posted by RavelloOk I see how it is. Leave important pieces out of my argument so you can defeat it.
Sure, he's surrounded by a bunch of morons who can't paly basket uh?
Indeed he needed Gasol to win two titles, and let's not speak about the ones he won with the best Shaq ever........
Come on, you're getting silly, are you REALLY comparing Ilgauskas, West and Mo Williams to the ones above he wrong just because he wanted to switch team in order to get more chances to wwin something?
No Kobe isn't surrounded by All-Stars.
Three Peat All-Stars besides Kobe:
Shaq
Two Peat All-Stars besides Kobe:
Gasol
Honorable Mentions:
Glen Rice
Ron Artest
Wow! Only one other All-Star besides Kobe?
Oh and the point at issue wasn't whether or not Shaq, Gasol, Glen Rice, and Ron Ron are better than Boozer, Ilgauskas, Wallace, Williams, and Jamison; it was about Kobe being "surrounded" by All-Stars and Lebron NOT being surrounded by All-Stars.
Originally posted by RavelloYou forgot to mention that Kobe needed Derek Fisher, Robert Horry, Ron Harper, Glen Rice, Brian Shaw, Rick Fox, Andrew Bynum, Lamar Odom, Trevor Ariza, and Ron Artest to win his five titles. Of course, you probably don't know who half of these aforementioned players are.
Sure, he's surrounded by a bunch of morons who can't paly basket uh?
Indeed he needed Gasol to win two titles, and let's not speak about the ones he won with the best Shaq ever........
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Originally posted by MoneyManMikeYeah, Gasol apart we discover that Fisher (how much titles he won?) is not that good and Odom, Bynum, Artest are crap.
You forgot to mention that Kobe needed Derek Fisher, Robert Horry, Ron Harper, Glen Rice, Brian Shaw, Rick Fox, Andrew Bynum, Lamar Odom, Trevor Ariza, and Ron Artest to win his five titles. Of course, you probably don't know who half of these aforementioned players are.
So even Shaq and Robert Horry when at Lakers were both crap.
Good to know.........
Originally posted by MoneyManMikeYou mean like you did when you transposed a discussion on how good can Miami be in an old/silly/weak/trolling discussion about KobexLebron?
[b]Ok I see how it is. Leave important pieces out of my argument so you can defeat it.
Glad to know it was intentional