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Why do so many open invites have the "subscribers only" request? I mean why does it matter if the opponent is a subscriber or not?

Ok I can understand any "no provisional players" requests that appear, because there is a fair chance of playing an opponent who's "real" rating far outways the 1200 or so of provisional players. (Even if this is partly accounted for in the rating loss/gain.) But...

I fail to understand why not having a star against the name should be a reason to delete/refuse to play an opponent? ok possibly the chance that as they are not subscribed they may leave the game part of the way through, but in most cases this is not the case. if thats the only reason then they will be timed out. So...

Why make open invites for "Stars" only?

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Originally posted by MCA
Why do so many open invites have the "subscribers only" request? I mean why does it matter if the opponent is a subscriber or not?

Ok I can understand any "no provisional players" requests that appear, because there is a fair chance of playing an opponent who's "real" rating far outways the 1200 or so of provisional players. (Even if this is partly acc ...[text shortened]... the only reason then they will be timed out. So...

Why make open invites for "Stars" only?
Some people wish to play people who support this site with monetary "donations."

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I'm one of those who often requests "Subscribers only" in my open invites.

1)Because subscribers are committed to the site and are more likely to play the game faster.
2)Because nonsubscribers often make a couple of moves then leave and let the game timeout.
3)Because nonsubscribers are often some kind of wannabes who shout (whit caps lock) during the game things like "GOTCHA","I'LL CRUSH YOU"as soon as they are up a piece.
4)Because nonsubscribers are often some kind of cretins who shout (whit caps lock) things like F*** YOU"as soon as they lose a piece.
5)Because if you ask for playing subscribers they (non subs) will pick up the game and delete it just to piss you off.

Obviously this doesn't apply to all nonsubs but I had this kind of troubles more with freeloaders hence my request to play subscribers ONLY!

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Originally posted by Ravello
I'm one of those who often requests "Subscribers only" in my open invites.

1)Because subscribers are committed to the site and are more likely to play the game faster.
2)Because nonsubscribers often make a couple of moves then leave and let the game timeout.
3)Because nonsubscribers are often some kind of wannabes who shout (whit caps lock) during t ...[text shortened]... but I had this kind of troubles more with freeloaders hence my request to play subscribers ONLY!
Of course, this is no gurantee that subscribers wouldn't do this also. But either way, you seem to usually play 1 day timeouts with no timebanks, so it doesn't seem to really matter.

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Originally posted by abejnood
Of course, this is no gurantee that subscribers wouldn't do this also. But either way, you seem to usually play 1 day timeouts with no timebanks, so it doesn't seem to really matter.
I disagree. His point about non-subs leaving mid-game, wasn't the only reason Ravello chooses to play subscribers. I shall refer you to his post to find other reasoning on this subject.

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Originally posted by zakkwylder
I disagree. His point about non-subs leaving mid-game, wasn't the only reason Ravello chooses to play subscribers. I shall refer you to his post to find other reasoning on this subject.
Indeed, I understood his post. My main point here was that this was no gurantee that subscribers wouldn't do the same thing.

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Originally posted by Ravello
1)Because subscribers are committed to the site and are more likely to play the game faster.
I wonder if that's true on average. I certainly played a lot faster before I subscribed, because I couldn't play more than six games.

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Originally posted by Nordlys
I wonder if that's true on average. I certainly played a lot faster before I subscribed, because I couldn't play more than six games.
The fact is that if you have 40 games going you are more likely to be online and playing than a non sub who has only 6 games going.
The non sub plays his six moves and if no one is online will log out and move the next day or later,the subscriber is more likely to move everyday and online more often during the day.

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Originally posted by abejnood
Indeed, I understood his post. My main point here was that this was no gurantee that subscribers wouldn't do the same thing.
I see what you're saying. However, I've noticed that people don't like to lose money. maybe its me, but I thought this to be true for most. So why would someone spend money to play here and abruptly leave. I know people do decide to leave occasionally *cough no1marauder cough*, but they are few and far in between. so, the odds are against it.

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Originally posted by Ravello
I'm one of those who often requests "Subscribers only" in my open invites.

1)Because subscribers are committed to the site and are more likely to play the game faster.
2)Because nonsubscribers often make a couple of moves then leave and let the game timeout.


Obviously this doesn't apply to all nonsubs but I had this kind of troubles more with freeloaders hence my request to play subscribers ONLY!
1)Because subscribers are committed to the site and are more likely to play the game faster.
2)Because nonsubscribers often make a couple of moves then leave and let the game timeout.


ok i can understand that this would piss you off (as it would me) but you can check these before fully comitting to the game by viewing the opponents profile & past/present games. So why not ask for "Serious/fast players please"?

3)Because nonsubscribers are often some kind of wannabes who shout (whit caps lock) during the game things like "GOTCHA","I'LL CRUSH YOU"as soon as they are up a piece.
4)Because nonsubscribers are often some kind of cretins who shout (whit caps lock) things like F*** YOU"as soon as they lose a piece.


Are people really that bad? I have never come across this. Granted I have not played all that many opponents but the worst I have come across is purely ignorant hick-deads who wont even reply to a "Welcome and Good Luck".

5)Because if you ask for playing subscribers they (non subs) will pick up the game and delete it just to piss you off.

Many subs simply delete games when accepted by nonsubs without even giving the opportunity to show that they are not this type of cretin, or explanation as to why!

& I can kinda understand the "supporting the site" angle but if Russ doesn't have a problem with it, why should anyone else? He could make payment mandatory if he really wanted to.

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Originally posted by MCA
Russ doesn't have a problem with it, why should anyone else? He could make payment mandatory if he really wanted to.
With any luck he will.

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Originally posted by zakkwylder
With any luck he will.
If he did that, this site would lose over half of its players.

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Originally posted by Ravello
The fact is that if you have 40 games going you are more likely to be online and playing than a non sub who has only 6 games going.
The non sub plays his six moves and if no one is online will log out and move the next day or later,the subscriber is more likely to move everyday and online more often during the day.
I personaly am on line at least 5-6 times a day (often far more). My point was mostly because i am waiting for opponents (many of whom are subs) to make their move and go look for an open invite only to be confronted with rows of "stars only" beside the few rating based games i can actually accept 😞

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Originally posted by MCAok i can understand that this would piss you off (as it would me) but you can check these before fully comitting to the game by viewing the opponents profile & past/present games. So why not ask for "Serious/fast players please"?
Just to give you an example,onight I started some invites with the name "Fast please",and a non subscriber picked it up,this is the result:the guy made three moves and left.



When you will have played 2000+ games like me you will have a more defined opinion about subs and non subs habits.......

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Originally posted by Wildfire
If he did that, this site would lose over half of its players.
But the monetary income would be the same.

Note that in these days Gameknot just restricted even more non subscribers privileges and this seems the direction that are taking other sites.

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