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No, not World of Warcraft (although that in itself would probably be a fantastic thread), but:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13592208

What next, vehicles that can run on water???????

I think it is time to fasten one's seat belts.

I always knew the Germans were a decent people.

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Originally posted by Woodgie
No, not World of Warcraft (although that in itself would probably be a fantastic thread), but:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13592208

What next, vehicles that can run on water???????

I think it is time to fasten one's seat belts.

I always knew the Germans were a decent people.
Runs on water? Not a big deal, some LIZARDS run on water🙂

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"The various studies from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change show that renewables could deliver, basically, global electricity by 2050," he said.

I find this hard to believe. We don't seem to be anywhere this, at this moment in time.

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Originally posted by jimslyp69
"The various studies from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change show that renewables could deliver, basically, global electricity by 2050," he said.

I find this hard to believe. We don't seem to be anywhere this, at this moment in time.
I remeber an old TV show I used to watch in the mid 50's called Rocky Jones Space Ranger or something to that effect. It was all (to a lad of 9) a fantasy....ya right space travel, then came the late 50's and early 60's.

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Originally posted by Great Big Stees
I remeber an old TV show I used to watch in the mid 50's called Rocky Jones Space Ranger or something to that effect. It was all (to a lad of 9) a fantasy....ya right space travel, then came the late 50's and early 60's.
Well call me cynical, but don't you think it's a bit of a coincidence that renewable energy is becoming viable just as fossil fuels are running out? Is the technology there already and they are just financially exploiting gas/oil to the max?

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Since the fossils go to an end and (until now at least) people use more they are bound to become more expensive.

The technology for renewables is there mainly, but not the infrastructure. Plus for electricity: it has to be generated/used a exactly the time when needed. One of the major challenges is to create "electricity reservoirs". This can be high lying pools of water (it runs down creating electricity when needed and pumps up water when there si eneryg surplus. But in germany it is very difficult to have any bigger thing built, since there is everytime somebody who thinks: not in my backyard...

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Originally posted by Ponderable
Since the fossils go to an end and (until now at least) people use more they are bound to become more expensive.

The technology for renewables is there mainly, but not the infrastructure. Plus for electricity: it has to be generated/used a exactly the time when needed. One of the major challenges is to create "electricity reservoirs". This can be high ...[text shortened]... ve any bigger thing built, since there is everytime somebody who thinks: not in my backyard...
Yes I can see the environmental impact will still be high now you mention this. Could we not just employ massive banks of capacitors or would there be too much leakage? I guess it all depends on how long the charge would have to be stored for.

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Originally posted by Ponderable
Since the fossils go to an end and (until now at least) people use more they are bound to become more expensive.

The technology for renewables is there mainly, but not the infrastructure. Plus for electricity: it has to be generated/used a exactly the time when needed. One of the major challenges is to create "electricity reservoirs". This can be high ...[text shortened]... ve any bigger thing built, since there is everytime somebody who thinks: not in my backyard...
Here where I live (southwestern Ontario) there has been a glut of large solar panels erected mostly in the farmland areas that are put up at about $100,000 per. The owners of the units use what electricity they need and sell off the excess to the grid. A homeowner in one of the cities here decided to put one up on his property (they are quite large although don't appear so in a farm field) and his neighbours went to the city to protest. Well the fellow (who is an absentee landlord) obviously did his homework and found no ruling/bylaw that said he couldn't do it. Will the floodgates open now?

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Originally posted by jimslyp69
Yes I can see the environmental impact will still be high now you mention this. Could we not just employ massive banks of capacitors or would there be too much leakage? I guess it all depends on how long the charge would have to be stored for.
Capacitors would be less than useless in this situation, besides the technology that is now available doesn't require storage and "on demand" supplies could easily be met.

The problem is not with the technology, it's with the "permission".

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Originally posted by Ponderable
Since the fossils go to an end and (until now at least) people use more they are bound to become more expensive.
Swallowing the theory of "Peak Oil" hook, line and sinker, eh?

There is still far more oil left on this planet than Big Oil keeps telling you there is.

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Originally posted by Suzianne
Swallowing the theory of "Peak Oil" hook, line and sinker, eh?

There is still far more oil left on this planet than Big Oil keeps telling you there is.
That is not the point, the point is being finite. And no big oil is not making the big prices, customers do by increasing demand.

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The NIMBY lot are making things difficult everywhere. We could easily run our country on solar and wind, with gas for topup where needed, but people here act as if wind farms are nuclear weapons ...

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Originally posted by Kewpie
The NIMBY lot are making things difficult everywhere. We could easily run our country on solar and wind, with gas for topup where needed, but people here act as if wind farms are nuclear weapons ...
I'm fed up up with NIMBY's too. Why can't they p*** off somewhere else instead of making life dificult around here.