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Game 117618 Move 11. Castling allowed even though bishop
threatened one of the squares in between.

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Andrew, I looked up the rules on castling:-
"A player is allowed to castle only if (a) his King is not in check, (b)
neither the King nor the relevant rook has moved during the game,
(c) no pieces seperate the King and the relevant rook, and (d) none
of the squares over which the King travels is covered by an enemy
man."
In your game, castling is permitted because the opponent's bishop
only covered a square over which your rook travelled and not your King.
I hope that is clear. I remember Korchnoi in an important game
asking the arbiter whether he was allowed to castle, because nobody
had ever told him the rules!

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Thanks David - you learn something every day! This knowledge could
have helped me many times in the past!

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Glad to be of assistance. I wasn't sure of the rules myself until I
looked them up ;-)

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Just one query though.. I played a game a while back where the king
was placed into check and then the check blocked by a pawn. The
opponent then went on to castle.. I thought that once you have been
in check you are not permitted to castle.

Please advise.😳

mwmiller
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Originally posted by Padre

I thought that once you have been
in check you are not permitted to castle.

Please advise.😳[/b]
I've never heard or seen that rule, Padre. The rule for castling only
states that you cannot be in check when you castle.

So, In my opinion what you described was a valid move.

regards,
Marc

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Originally posted by Padre
Just one query though.. I played a game a while back where the
king
was placed into check and then the check blocked by a pawn. The
opponent then went on to castle.. I thought that once you have been
in check you are not permitted to castle.

Please advise.😳
Steve, if the king has been moved (quite often an action brought
about by being placed in check) then castling is no longer permitted.
However, if the king is placed in check, but it doesn't move (so for
instance the check could be blocked by a pawn) then castling remains
a valid move to be played on a later move if desired.

Hope that helped!

Mark

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Perhaps there should be a couple of icons (or just text) to indicate
whether or not castling is still available (King and Queen side and for
both opponents). In a one on one game it's quite easy to remember
but dipping in and out of a lot of games makes this kind of thing easy
to forget. Having to go through the whole game history is a bit of pain
if this is all you want to know.

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Originally posted by Rhymester
Perhaps there should be a couple of icons (or just text) to indicate
whether or not castling is still available (King and Queen side and for
both opponents). In a one on one game it's quite easy to remember
but dipping in and out of a lot of games makes this kind of thing easy
to forget. Having to go through the whole game history is a bit of pain
if this is all you want to know.

Rhymester
And maybe a little icon to let you know whether a deep, subtle
sacrifice will work or not, or when you can mate your oppenent in 7
moves and a pop up box comes up telling you how to do it? 😉😛😀

Mark

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Originally posted by T1000
Steve, if the king has been moved (quite often an action brought
about by being placed in check) then castling is no longer permitted.
However, if the king is placed in check, but it doesn't move (so for
instance the check could be blocked by a pawn) then castling remains
a valid move to be played on a later move if desired.

Hope that helped!

Mark

Great thanks for the fast response... Two things still concern me
though.. One is how did you know my name? and Two, my mentor has
problems with the rules.. which is a dangerous mentor at that.

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Sleep with one eye open Steve...I'm coming to get you
MWUHAHAHAA! 😉

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Originally posted by Rhymester
Perhaps there should be a couple of icons (or just text) to indicate
whether or not castling is still available (King and Queen side and for
both opponents). In a one on one game it's quite easy to remember
but dipping in and out of a lot of games makes this kind of thing easy
to forget. Having to go through the whole game history is a bit of pain
if this is all you want to know.

Rhymester
Good idea. There is a way of finding out at the moment, although it's
not perfect. If you go to the "Game Details" page you can look at the
FEN of the position.

The FEN tells you all about the game, including what castling options
are available... more details here...

http://www.redhotpawn.com/help/popuphelp.php?section=faq#7

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Originally posted by T1000
And maybe a little icon to let you know whether a deep, subtle
sacrifice will work or not, or when you can mate your oppenent in 7
moves and a pop up box comes up telling you how to do it? 😉😛😀

Mark
and a flashing 'boxing glove' icon that alerts you to the fact that your
opponent is well overdue for a good slapping! 😉

Andrew

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LOL!!! You know I love you really big guy 😀

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Originally posted by T1000
Sleep with one eye open Steve...I'm coming to get you
MWUHAHAHAA! 😉

Spooky.... Hey we need a spooky icon..🙂😀😉😛😕😠😳🙁:'(😞 none of
these really do the spooky thing for me..

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