15 Jan 09
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Originally posted by CatOfGreyIn the Terms of Service (see link at the bottom of this page)
Is the computer policy posted somewhere on the site? I'm having trouble finding it.
I recall this is a 'no machine' site, but just want to make sure.
under 3. YOUR REGISTRATION OBLIGATIONS you can read
(b) "While a game is in progress you may not refer to chess engines, chess computers or be assisted by a third party. Endgame tablebases may not be consulted during play but you may reference books, databases consisting of previously played games between human players, and other pre-existing research materials."
This paragraph is often referred as TOS 3(b).
16 Jan 09
Here's my take - anyone please reply if I'm correct or not...
1. Fine's book is OK- it's not a 'tablebase'. This is an issue because Endgame tables on computer aren't really Chess engines, but they are a set of instructions to solve a position. Looking it up in a book is OK, but the automation of the computer is considered unfair by this site.
2. I never use a computer to select my move, but when chess corresponding years ago, I would use a computer as my practice opponent, to play out various possible lines, as a way to review my moves. As I am starting up again on this site, this appears to be something that is NOT allowed here.
16 Jan 09
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Originally posted by CatOfGreyYou can tinker with your engine for ideas BEFORE you start a game, and after a game is finished.
Here's my take - anyone please reply if I'm correct or not...
1. Fine's book is OK- it's not a 'tablebase'. This is an issue because Endgame tables on computer aren't really Chess engines, but they are a set of instructions to solve a position. Looking it up in a book is OK, but the automation of the computer is considered unfair by this site.
2. ...[text shortened]... am starting up again on this site, this appears to be something that is NOT allowed here.
You start to get in trouble when your games constantly match out as engine play.
You sitting down to get ideas before the game isn't going to make all your moves look like engine play. All your moves will look like engine play only if you are using an engine.
You can study an opening and speculate a few moves before a game if you suspect someone constantly follows some line you want to tinker with, but as soon as they make a move outside of the lines you evaluated the study you did is out the door.
Any time you take an existing position in a game and plug it into an engine, you have cheated.
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16 Jan 09
Originally posted by CatOfGreyEndgame tablebases have been generated by engines. They don't contain instructions, they contain exact moves to mate. I don't know the max forced mate, but I think we're talking of mates in over 100 moves.
1. Fine's book is OK- it's not a 'tablebase'. This is an issue because Endgame tables on computer aren't really Chess engines, but they are a set of instructions to solve a position. Looking it up in a book is OK, but the automation of the computer is considered unfair by this site.
That's why they're not allowed.
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