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  1. 01 Jul '04 14:28
    I think a warning shoult be posted on every home page: It is illegal to use computers to suggest moves. Databases and books, however are ok. I like to feel like im playing a human being. I realize this will not prevent those sick people who like to misrepresent themselves, but at least the warning is up front and noticeable.
  2. Standard member Exy
    Damn fine Clan!
    01 Jul '04 15:17
    It is in the terms and conditions so if you feel that you are being cheated you should send a personal messages to Russ or Chrismo and they will investigate. Don't post anything in the forums though as this may start a nasty flame warm.
  3. 01 Jul '04 15:38
    No, Exy, I don't have any complaints about my opponents. I just think that every correspondence site (like RHP) should have the warning right up front, not tucked away in a disclaimer agreement that nobody reads.
  4. Standard member thire
    Xebite
    01 Jul '04 16:23
    Originally posted by buddy2
    No, Exy, I don't have any complaints about my opponents. I just think that every correspondence site (like RHP) should have the warning right up front, not tucked away in a disclaimer agreement that nobody reads.
    people don't like these 100 pages of legal stuff: they want to play chess. esay and fast. not too much conditions...
    th
  5. 01 Jul '04 16:51
    I agree, if I understand you correctly. A simple: Using computers to suggest moves is illegal at RHP.
  6. Donation belgianfreak
    stitching you up
    01 Jul '04 19:38
    isn't that obvious, a bit like saying 'it's illegal to use a motorbike in a this running race'? Does it really need to be broadcast so prominently?
  7. Standard member Exy
    Damn fine Clan!
    01 Jul '04 19:53
    Originally posted by belgianfreak
    isn't that obvious, a bit like saying 'it's illegal to use a motorbike in a this running race'? Does it really need to be broadcast so prominently?
    Yeah, I actually think that databases are more of a grey area. I haven't used them in games myself but I looked at Chess Base once and isn't this almost as bad as using software?
  8. 01 Jul '04 20:13
    Originally posted by Exy
    Yeah, I actually think that databases are more of a grey area. I haven't used them in games myself but I looked at Chess Base once and isn't this almost as bad as using software?
    No more so than using an opening article or an endgame book.
  9. Standard member Exy
    Damn fine Clan!
    01 Jul '04 20:18
    Originally posted by Osse
    No more so than using an opening article or an endgame book.
    But don't online databases like Chessbase allow you to search specific positions and provide a list of next moves? This is not that disimilar to using software, surely?
  10. Standard member Phlabibit
    Mystic Meg
    01 Jul '04 20:22
    If I play a well rated player I will say, "Hey, you mind if I use a database for this game, otherwise you will be beating me up in about 20 moves"!

    I've never had anyone tell me, no. If they don't want me in a database, it is easy enough to make a move out of book.

    P-
  11. Standard member Exy
    Damn fine Clan!
    01 Jul '04 20:34 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by buddy2
    I think a warning shoult be posted on every home page: It is illegal to use computers to suggest moves. Databases and books, however are ok. I like to feel like im playing a human being. I realize this will not prevent those sick people ...[text shortened]... t themselves, but at least the warning is up front and noticeable.
    You started the thread - how do you feel that Databases differ from using Software?

    Personally, my database is my Archived Games - I learn from my mistakes and from playing better opponents.
  12. 01 Jul '04 20:40
    Originally posted by Exy
    But don't online databases like Chessbase allow you to search specific positions and provide a list of next moves? This is not that disimilar to using software, surely?
    They show you a list of moves that were played before in that position. They don't provide any reasons as to why those moves were made, or what the plans for the positions should be.

    It's unlikely that you'll have a position that has been played before after move 20 anyway, so CB is of little use there.
  13. Standard member Exy
    Damn fine Clan!
    01 Jul '04 20:43
    Originally posted by Osse
    They show you a list of moves that were played before in that position. They don't provide any reasons as to why those moves were made, or what the plans for the positions should be.

    It's unlikely that you'll have a position that has been played before after move 20 anyway, so CB is of little use there.
    So they provide you with a crutch until about move 20... then what? Why use them?
  14. Standard member Phlabibit
    Mystic Meg
    01 Jul '04 20:56
    Originally posted by Exy
    So they provide you with a crutch until about move 20... then what? Why use them?
    to learn and get better... not everyone was born with the chess skill you've developed.

    P-
  15. Standard member Exy
    Damn fine Clan!
    01 Jul '04 21:01 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Phlabibit
    to learn and get better... not everyone was born with the chess skill you've developed.

    P-
    I've only developed it by hard work and losing a lot of games to tougher opponents.

    You learn by your mistakes. Chess isn't Snooker, it's not about playing the best moves whilst you're at the table, it's more like Poker, you can out play your opponent through wrong footing them, unconventional tactics, making moves that you feel rather than you've been told to make by a removed source.