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  1. 17 Dec '02 05:14
    Direct linking or bandwidth theft is a huge problem on the internet.
    What is bandwidth? Bandwidth is the usage of a website, measured in
    bytes, and is charged to a website in monthly increments usually.
    When you go to a website and the page starts to download, bandwidth
    is being used. The background graphics, the title, the graphics, midi
    files, streaming video, etc all use bandwidth.

    When you visit a website and decide you like the graphics and directly
    link/or copy the item and then place it on another site like this one,
    you are stealing the bandwidth of that site. Essentially, the item is
    still on the server where you found it, and they are being charged for
    the bytes used here as well as there.
    Most people that do this are completely unaware of the consequences
    it has for the owner of the web site. To put it in dollar figures, it can
    easily reach into $ thousands and it is often the cause of certain
    websites shutting down. And why most free e-card sites have
    vanished or now charge for their use. Free media on the internet is
    definitely in jeopardy as a result of bandwidth theft. It also slows
    down the loading of the pages.
    I guess what I'll saying is, it would be better if we upload a picture and
    put it on the server rather than link it with another site to this site and
    making the system bog down. If RHP gets charged for the amount of
    actitivy, then the charges are going to go up with all these links in
    people's profile pointing to other sites, If we have 50000 people
    logged on doing something and they all have links in their profile, the
    system will slow down consirable.
    Just a thought the fonder.
    Bob 😉
  2. Subscriber Russ
    RHP Code Monkey
    17 Dec '02 22:24 / 1 edit
    You are quite right – in fact, we have just had to order extra bandwidth
    this month as we were incurring fines for excessive usage (beyond our
    contract). This is because of site popularity - but it does illustrate the
    problem. It is not right to steal someone else’s bandwidth.

    If someone used the RHP logo as an avatar on another site, when the
    image was hosted on this site, I too would be pretty annoyed.

    Most ISPs offer personal web - so the best advice is to use it. (I
    even use my ISPs space for my avatar)

    -Russ
  3. Donation mwmiller
    RHP Member No.16
    17 Dec '02 22:29


    Most ISPs offer personal web - so the best advice is to use it. (I
    even use my ISPs space for my avatar)

    -Russ
    [/b]
    Russ, my ISP includes a website, but I don't know how to put my
    graphics onto the site. Can you give us some simple instruction on
    how to go about that?

    regards, Marc
  4. Donation Rhymester
    and RedHotTed
    18 Dec '02 10:16
    Originally posted by mwmiller
    Russ, my ISP includes a website, but I don't know how to put my
    graphics onto the site. Can you give us some simple instruction on
    how to go about that?

    regards, Marc
    Marc, it depends on your ISP. On AOL there is a program called 'file
    manager' that allows you to upload pictures to your own web space.

    On this subject, I was looking at the terms and conditions on AOL,
    relating to use of personal web space. I came across the following:

    "You must not utilize member Web space as a storage for remote
    loading of graphics or other content; including utilizing member Web
    space solely as a "signpost" or "billboard" linking to an outside ISP or
    Web page."

    Russ - if I'm reading this correctly, isn't this what we do when we link
    to an avatar stored in our own web space?

    Rhymester
  5. Donation mwmiller
    RHP Member No.16
    18 Dec '02 10:35
    Thanks.

    I think at this point I will forget about adding any graphics or pictures.
    Sounds like anything added will require this site to maintain a link to
    someplace else on the net, which will increase the burden on the RHP
    server, which will in turn increase cost and slow down access to normal
    functions.

    regards, Marc
  6. Subscriber Russ
    RHP Code Monkey
    18 Dec '02 12:24
    Originally posted by Rhymester

    Russ - if I'm reading this correctly, isn't this what we do when we link
    to an avatar stored in our own web space?
    AOL are big enough to take it. (I know I am going to sound like a
    hypocrite here) AOL offers you the web space (it is YOUR web space –
    this it the key point), so just use it as you want to. If they tell you
    otherwise, then take action. But they won't, do don't worry.

    -Russ
  7. Subscriber Russ
    RHP Code Monkey
    18 Dec '02 12:27
    Originally posted by mwmiller

    Sounds like anything added will require this site to maintain a link to
    someplace else on the net, which will increase the burden on the RHP
    server, which will in turn increase cost and slow down access to normal
    functions.
    No, if the pic is hosted elsewhere, there is *no* extra buden to the
    RHP server. Read my reply above, then please do put up a
    profile/avatar pic. - they make the forums much more fun. 🙂

    -Russ
  8. Donation mwmiller
    RHP Member No.16
    18 Dec '02 20:51
    I had been linked to a couple of graphics on other sites, but they
    specifically ask you not to link to them, but rather to download
    whatever you want, so I saved them but don't know what to do with
    them at this point.

    My isp includes a free website, but I don't know how to use it. I
    expect I could put these free graphics there and then link my site to
    RHP to use them, but have no idea how to go about doing this.

    Do you have any quick and easy instructions on how to do this, Russ?

    thanks, Marc
  9. Donation mwmiller
    RHP Member No.16
    18 Dec '02 21:28
    Originally posted by Rhymester
    Marc, which ISP are you using?

    Andrew
    It's my local phone company, TCTWEST.NET. I suspect they may have
    some basic webpage instruction under their tech support.
  10. Donation Rhymester
    and RedHotTed
    19 Dec '02 08:48
    I've already said this in our in-game messages but to avoid a hanging
    thread....

    Your ISP's help file suggests a piece of File Transfer software (FTP) to
    download.
    It also gives you instructions on how to use it to copy files from your
    computer to your web space.

    Good luck Marc!

    Andrew
  11. Subscriber Russ
    RHP Code Monkey
    19 Dec '02 09:46
    I recommend you get yourself a good FTP client.
    Try Absolute FTP – my preference. It only has a trial period of 30
    days – but it really is very good and easy to use. (Free ones to
    exist –but 30 days will be long enough to get done what you want to
    do)

    Download here:
    http://www.vandyke.com/download/absoluteftp/index.html

    Your ISP should be able to tell you your FTP address for your web
    space. (It should be in your documentation they send you when you
    opened the account – otherwise just email their support) You will
    need a use name and a password too.

    Install Absolute FTP – click the top left icon with the lightening icon.
    Enter your details (make sure anonymous FTP isn’t checked)
    Then connect.

    You should be able to drag files around just like windows explorer.

    As simple as that. 🙂

    -Russ
  12. Donation mwmiller
    RHP Member No.16
    19 Dec '02 10:20
    That worked fine. Thanks, Russ!

    regards, Marc