20 May 08
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Originally posted by golddog2Game 4889179
Can anyone tell me why this tournament game became a draw when my opponent only had his King remaining and I was a few moves away from checkmate? Is this a bug or am I missing something?
http://www.redhotpawn.com/core/playchess.php?gameid=4889179
That is called stalemate. You moved your king and blocked any chance for the other king to make any kind of move.
If a player can't move legally, it's a draw.
Search 'stalemate' for better understanding of this rule, and next time be sure any move you make leaves a move for the other guy, unless that move is a checkmate.
Better may have been:
48. Qb2 …Ke1 (Don't let the king off the back row)
49. Bc3+ …Kd1 (Set them up)
50. Qd2# (knock them down)
P-
20 May 08
Originally posted by PhlabibitStalemate is my favourite chess rule!
Game 4889179
That is called stalemate. You moved your king and blocked any chance for the other king to make any kind of move.
If a player can't move legally, it's a draw.
Search 'stalemate' for better understanding of this rule, and next time be sure any move you make leaves a move for the other guy, unless that move is a checkmate.
Bet ...[text shortened]... e king off the back row)
49. Bc3+ …Kd1 (Set them up)
50. Qd2# (knock them down)
P-
I love to watch others fall into a stale mate, and I love to make a stale mate trap myself when I am way under in material!
It's just candy!
21 May 08
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Originally posted by golddog2A king cannot move to a square that is under attack by the enemy. That move would be placing itself in check, and that is not allowed.
One more question....are you still able to use the King for offensive moves, can a King move to create checkmate or is that a stalemate?
It is possible for a king to attack everything except the enemy king or queen so in that sense it could be used to make offensive moves.
21 May 08
Originally posted by FabianFnasMoving the kign to f7 results in a mate but the rook is putting the opponent king in check, not the king, although the move by the king results in the check.
The king can put the other king in check, as well as mate:
[fen]4RK1k/4P1pp/8/8/8/8/p7/8[/fen]
White mates in one!
Semantics I suppose 🙂
21 May 08
Originally posted by FabianFnasNo problem with the fact - it's perfectly acceptable. But --- The moves to arrive here would be rather interesting! The kings ~must~ have been in these positions before the rook arrived on the rank - and when it got to ?8, white moved it to the e file in front of the pawn instead of just moving the king to f7! If this was a real endgame, I'd take a SERIOUS look at my tactics!
The king can put the other king in check, as well as mate:
[fen]4RK1k/4P1pp/8/8/8/8/p7/8[/fen]
White mates in one!
21 May 08
Originally posted by CauselessOneWell, it's just an illustration about a king move that mates.
No problem with the fact - it's perfectly acceptable. But --- The moves to arrive here would be rather interesting! The kings ~must~ have been in these positions before the rook arrived on the rank - and when it got to ?8, white moved it to the e file in front of the pawn instead of just moving the king to f7! If this was a real endgame, I'd take a SERIOUS look at my tactics!
But actually I took your thoughts into consideration (lightly) and therefor i put a black pawn at a2. The only thing black could do was to move the pawn in the hope of promoting it eventually. Meanwhile white got in place, took the queen at e8 with the rook to avoid the mate on white. ... or something...
Please, don't read in something in the diagarm too much.
21 May 08
Originally posted by FabianFnasI think I'll go with the 'or something' option. Qe8 would have been giving check, so .....🙄 Maybe the Q took something and the R was already on 8?
Well, it's just an illustration about a king move that mates.
But actually I took your thoughts into consideration (lightly) and therefor i put a black pawn at a2. The only thing black could do was to move the pawn in the hope of promoting it eventually. Meanwhile white got in place, took the queen at e8 with the rook to avoid the mate on white. ... or something...
Please, don't read in something in the diagarm too much.
Congrats 0on the 1800 btw. I got there once, but it didn't last. Hopefully, you'll do better!
21 May 08
Originally posted by CauselessOneThank you. I don't stay 1800+ for long. Perhaps later I'll do a new try, and one never knows... 😞
I think I'll go with the 'or something' option. Qe8 would have been giving check, so .....🙄 Maybe the Q took something and the R was already on 8?
Congrats 0on the 1800 btw. I got there once, but it didn't last. Hopefully, you'll do better!
The diagram was invented in a hurry, just to prove my thing. I didn't put effort to make it be a well thought mate in one problem. So the 'or something' is a good description of it.
21 May 08
Originally posted by CauselessOneIt's possible that the Rook was on e8 and an bN on f8. Then, the Kings came in.
No problem with the fact - it's perfectly acceptable. But --- The moves to arrive here would be rather interesting! The kings ~must~ have been in these positions before the rook arrived on the rank - and when it got to ?8, white moved it to the e file in front of the pawn instead of just moving the king to f7! If this was a real endgame, I'd take a SERIOUS look at my tactics!
Or maybe the position a few moves earlier was this:
White played 1.dxe8R to show off. Black realizes that even if he plays ...h6, he is still dead lost, yet he does not feel like resigning. So, he replies 1...a2 and 2.Kf7# ends it.