1. Copenhagen
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    17 Sep '03 11:251 edit
    I think it should be possible to resign without you're the one supposed to move! This is also possible in
    "real" chess. The same is not the case with offering a draw... you could only do that when you're the one to move.

    Another idea is that it should be possible to see what your rating would be in the 3 cases: - Win - Draw - Loss.

    How is the rating calculated... anyone know?

    Banach
  2. Subscribermwmiller
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    17 Sep '03 11:38
    Click on "Help/pop-up help/FAQ"
    There you will find information on rating calculation.
  3. Standard memberPhlabibit
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    17 Sep '03 13:44
    If you have a game you want to resign... message the person you are playing and ask them to move... tell them you are going to resign.

    Here is the rating calculator that gregoftheweb wrote.... Doesn't show draw scores... but it is still handy. Check it out.

    http://www7.brinkster.com/obyrne/rhp_rc.htm

    P-
  4. Standard membergregoftheweb
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    17 Sep '03 17:19
    How are the ratings from a draw calculated? I can put another button on that tool.
  5. Standard memberPhlabibit
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    Originally posted by gregoftheweb
    How are the ratings from a draw calculated? I can put another button on that tool.
    This is from the pop up help FAQ.......

    Players are rated using the following formula:

    New Rating = Old Rating + K * (Score - Win Expectancy)

    K is a constant (32 for 0-2099, 24 for 2100-2399, 16 for 2400 and above)

    Score is 1 for a win, 0.5 for a draw and 0 for a loss.

    The Win Expectancy is calculated using the following formula:

    Win Expectancy = 1 / (10^(( Opponent Rating - YourRating) / 400)+1)

    The Win Expectancy is used in the rating calculation but is interesting on its own. For example, the calculation below is for a rating difference of 200. This shows that if you have a rating 200 points higher than another player, you can expect to beat them, on average, three times for each four games played.

    Win Expectancy = 1 / (10 ^ (-200 / 400)+1) = 0.76

    Note: ^ = "to the power of", e.g. 2^3=8.


    Hope that helps... It's all greek to me... otherwise known as math.

    😉
  6. Standard membergregoftheweb
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    17 Sep '03 22:28
    Score is 1 for a win, 0.5 for a draw and 0 for a loss.

    I was missing that piece of information. It now shows draws.

    http://www7.brinkster.com/obyrne/rhp_rc.htm
  7. Standard memberPhlabibit
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    18 Sep '03 00:26
    Originally posted by gregoftheweb
    Score is 1 for a win, 0.5 for a draw and 0 for a loss.

    I was missing that piece of information. It now shows draws.

    http://www7.brinkster.com/obyrne/rhp_rc.htm
    Now that is service! Good work!

    Can you add another panel... this would be "chance to win game"... it is based on this info here.

    The Win Expectancy is used in the rating calculation but is interesting on its own. For example, the calculation below is for a rating difference of 200. This shows that if you have a rating 200 points higher than another player, you can expect to beat them, on average, three times for each four games played.

    Win Expectancy = 1 / (10^(-200/400)+1) = 0.76

    P-
  8. Standard membergregoftheweb
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    18 Sep '03 17:09
    ask and you shall recieve.

    http://www7.brinkster.com/obyrne/rhp_rc.htm
  9. Standard memberPhlabibit
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    18 Sep '03 18:43
    Originally posted by gregoftheweb
    ask and you shall recieve.

    http://www7.brinkster.com/obyrne/rhp_rc.htm
    That thing is the cooooolest. Thanx.

    Can it make French Toast?

    Phla-
  10. Standard membergregoftheweb
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    I don't think I can cast an integer to "french toast" variable type. Maybe in .Net.
  11. Standard membergotti2000
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    19 Sep '03 07:05
    Originally posted by gregoftheweb
    I don't think I can cast an integer to "french toast" variable type. Maybe in .Net.
    try
    cast (integer as pain||fromage||jambon||pain)

    gg
  12. Standard memberthire
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    28 Oct '03 15:07
    Originally posted by gregoftheweb
    ask and you shall recieve.

    http://www7.brinkster.com/obyrne/rhp_rc.htm
    Russ could you intergrate that in RHP (or timeForChess...😉 )
    th
  13. London
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    28 Oct '03 16:51
    We could probably also do with a calculator for the 'p' rules.

    If a 'p' player with a rating of P (e.g. 1256p for P=1256) has already completed N games and finishes a game against an opponent rated Q, his new rating will be
    P + (Q - P + 800 * (S-0.5) * K) / (N+1)
    where S = (1 for a win, 0.5 for a draw, 0 for a loss)
    and K = (1 if opponent has a normal rating, 0.5 if opponent also has a 'p' rating)

    Until a player has finished 5 games, their rating shows as 1200p, but this formula requires their true (unstable, hidden) rating. I can't remember whether this is visible anywhere.

    You also have to remember that the K factor in the usual rating calculation is reduced by 50% (if I remember correctly) for a result against a 'p'-rated player.
  14. Quepos, Costa Rica
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    03 Nov '03 14:36
    Does anyone know, Do you get the same points for a claimed win as you would if your opponent resigns?😕
  15. Subscribermwmiller
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    03 Nov '03 15:012 edits
    <reply to zanob>
    &lt;reply to zanob&gt;

    It should all be the same, regardless of whether you win by checkmate, your opponent resigning, or your opponent timing out.

    regards, Marc
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