Rating calculation

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a

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22 Jul 09

Does anyone know which rating is used in the rating calculation - the opponents rating as it is at the start of the match or at the end?

RHP Member No.16

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Your rating and your opponent's rating at the time the game is over is used to calculate your new ratings.

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Blighty

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Out of interest, what differential does there need to be for there to be a net change of 0 points? I.E. when a significantly better player beats a lesser one?

I lost two games against Pawn Riot (a very nice person) and there was no alteration to either rating, which seemed harsh to him.

RHP Member No.16

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Originally posted by Surtism
Out of interest, what differential does there need to be for there to be a net change of 0 points? I.E. when a significantly better player beats a lesser one?

I lost two games against Pawn Riot (a very nice person) and there was no alteration to either rating, which seemed harsh to him.
I copied this chart some time ago and at this point in time I'm not sure who to give credit to. It is not mine. I think it came from one of the members here at RHP, but it is also possible that I picked it up elsewhere. I do not vouch for the accuracy but perhaps it will be helpful for you.

Chess Rating Chart

Difference ____ H -- D -- L
0-10 __________ 16 - 0 - 16
11-32 _________ 15 - 1 - 17
33-54 _________ 14 - 2 - 18
55-77 _________ 13 - 3 - 19
78-100 ________ 12 - 4 - 20
101-124 _______ 11 - 5 - 21
125-149 _______ 10 - 6 - 22
150-176 _______ 9 - 7 - 23
177-205 _______ 8 - 8 - 24
206-237 _______ 7 - 9 - 25
238-273 _______ 6 - 10 - 26
274-314 _______ 5 - 11 - 27
315-364 _______ 4 - 12 - 28
365-428 _______ 3 - 13 - 29
429-523 _______ 2 - 14 - 30
524-719 _______ 1 - 15 - 31
720+ __________ 0 - 16 - 32

Key

H - Higher rated player wins that number of points.
D - Draw, higher player losses that number, lower players gains that number.
L - Lower rated player wins that number of points.

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Blighty

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Thanks very much, that explains the 'nil point' change well - Im just not good enough to be noticed by him!

Australia

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The chart was supplied by Drew, who isn't with us any more, but there's a level at which it becomes inaccurate - about 2100 I think. See Thread 80000.

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Earth

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Originally posted by Kewpie
The chart was supplied by Drew, who isn't with us any more, but there's a level at which it becomes inaccurate - about 2100 I think. See Thread 80000.
Most of us mortals need not worry about that though eh Kewpie? 🙂

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08 Aug 09

Why i can not see my rating, where is it ??

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Earth

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Originally posted by delp57
Why i can not see my rating, where is it ??
I can see it. Under your user name, where it tells you when you last moved in days, minutes and seconds. 1380.

DS

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08 Aug 09

Originally posted by delp57
Why i can not see my rating, where is it ??
Or here:

http://yfrog.com/5aprintscreen004p

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Thread Killing Chimp

In your retina!:D

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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Or here:

http://yfrog.com/5aprintscreen004p
What site do u use? I dont see any rating there like you do.

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21 Oct 09

Wouldn't it make more sense to take the numbers at the beginning of a match as at that point both players have a given accurate rating, whereas during the match ratings change?

F

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21 Oct 09

Originally posted by Gucky
Wouldn't it make more sense to take the numbers at the beginning of a match as at that point both players have a given accurate rating, whereas during the match ratings change?
If rating would be calculated from as it were when the game started I would do something like this:

(1) Start a great number of games, and after three moves resign them all. My rating will go down to, say 500 points.

(2) Start another great number of games, hundreds, perhaps thousands of games. As everyone of these games would be calculated as if my rating would be 500 points, my rating would sky rocket up to 3000, 4000 or even 5000 points in very short period of time.

This wouldn't be fair. I'm glad that the rating is calculated as it is when the game is ended. As it currently is.

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21 Oct 09

Originally posted by FabianFnas
If rating would be calculated from as it were when the game started I would do something like this:

(1) Start a great number of games, and after three moves resign them all. My rating will go down to, say 500 points.

(2) Start another great number of games, hundreds, perhaps thousands of games. As everyone of these games would be calculated as if my ...[text shortened]... r. I'm glad that the rating is calculated as it is when the game is ended. As it currently is.
I didn't take the cheaters into account ( no offense meant ) but I understand your point that surely there would be players out there that would take advantage of this.

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22 Oct 09

Originally posted by Gucky
I didn't take the cheaters into account ( no offense meant ) but I understand your point that surely there would be players out there that would take advantage of this.
Well, don't call them cheaters if it's within the rules.
I think the rating calculation of today is better. Harder to cheat, and with a lesser result.