how does one claim a draw based on 3fold repetition anyway? I recall a discussion about this a while ago. Has that not yet been implemented? Any ruling on timing of the claim?
I've got one ongoing right now that I have no idea how to claim... I'm about to make move 52, and note that not only is there (a) a threefold repetition of positioni after my move 51, but ALSO (b) there's a SECOND threefold repetition of position after the next move (her move is forced assuming she doesn't want to lose a rook, all her threats with it, and leave me with a won game, that is, then my move to seal the OTHER 3-fold repetition is plain. 52 ... Qb6+ 53. Kd7 Qd4+ =).
Game 410294
(not soliciting comments, just pointing the game out -- and hopefully, this question will soon be moot because I'm also addressing this argument to my opponent and see if she agrees to a voluntary draw. My message to my opponent: Actually, technically, I've got a draw based on 3fold repetition of position, after my moves 46, 49, and 51... but there doesn't seem to be a mechanism in RHP to claim it! Even if it were too late to claim, I get one immediately after the next move, too! (obviously, Kd7 forced unless you WANT to lose the rook... at which point I'll go Qd4+, duplicating the position after both my move 48 and my move 45) And on that note, wanna voluntarily accept the draw? :-))
at any rate, there really ought to be a way to claim the draw regardless of the compliance of the opponent...
Originally posted by paultopiaI'm not certain but I think it only applies if both players make the exact same move three times in a row. It appeared that the king move to different locations. I hope this helps,
the game in question was mooted by her voluntarily accepting the draw, but the point remains in general :-)
Cheshire Cat 😀
i have enjoyed both our games but as i could have check mated you in one move i reckon it is you who purposely made the repetitive moving knowing that if you didn't i would win the game without a doubt. like i said before paul there are no hard feelings and maybe i'm taking this to heart being a girly and everything😉 but now i feel like i've been accused of some kind of cheating.
Originally posted by Cheshire CatA draw can be claimed if the same position occurs three times - it doesn't matter if the occurrences are not consecutive, or if different moves were played to reach the same position.
I'm not certain but I think it only applies if both players make the exact same move three times in a row. It appeared that the king move to different locations. I hope this helps,
Cheshire Cat 😀
Originally posted by wucky3oh, no! I'm sorry, I didn't mean for it to come off like an accusation of cheating. Of course I deliberately forced the repetition to avoid the several forced mates you had! I just wanted to make the point for future games, really, and our game was a good way to make the point that there was no way to make a draw happen.
i have enjoyed both our games but as i could have check mated you in one move i reckon it is you who purposely made the repetitive moving knowing that if you didn't i would win the game without a doubt. like i said before paul there are no hard feelings and maybe i'm taking this to heart being a girly and everything😉 but now i feel like i've been accused of some kind of cheating.
I apologize if it came off like some kind of accusation. I promise it wasn't intended that way at all!
Originally posted by richjohnsonAgreed but only if it is the same player's turn to move.
A draw can be claimed if the same position occurs three times - it doesn't matter if the occurrences are not consecutive, or if different moves were played to reach the same position.
Until there is a permanent fix for this problem I suggest that BEFORE you make the move which repeats the position for the third time, you should send a personal message to your opponent saying what move you intend to make next and that this will repeat the position for the third time and you claim a draw. Then send the move with a draw offer.
If for some reason this does not work out then send a personal message to Russ.
🙂
Originally posted by runninfiendContact Russ and give him the game number. He will force draw if you are right.
i have this problem now. my opponent will not take a draw although we've had repetition for the last 30 moves or so...this could go on forever. the opponent will not even respond to questioning. what's to be done?
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Can we have the game number???
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I presume it's the game against dscp. That's amazing. I've never seen so many repetitions in a game!
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Don't try to contact Russ, as he's away on vacation. But if you send a message to Chrismo, he should be able to do something.
Dave
